Q21Q21 ACRB Extraction

[Methodology]

Well , I have finally started my research into this kind of extraction, at first I was skeptical if all of the measurements of the A/B extraction would suffice. I began with 500g of material, and I am currently on my 3rd consecutive pull, I have had the solvent crystallizing in the freezer for not more than 15 min. When I pulled out the pan to put in my second pull, the solvent was extremely foggy and I could already see a fine line of crystallization, I'm really excited to see how this goes, just wanted to show that this tek does work and works exceptionally well from what I currently see in my precipitation dish. I've never seen this much happen in such a short period of time, not even with my first pull off of 500g of MHRB, hope all goes well tomorrow when I get to see it in its full glory.

 

[cyb]

So you've extracted a kg of material so far...
Just how much spice does one person need? :surprised

 

[Methodology]

Not trying to horde or anything (most of it went to my friends, they are pretty psychedelic happy, and everyone that hasn't tried it, wants to try it, I personally haven't even done even 300mg since I discovered spice, its just not one of those things you can't really abuse, its a seriously spiritual device, and should be treated as such), but with the recent developments with scarcity of MHRB, I wanted see if an abundant supply of ACRB would yield a much more crystallized form, opposed to doing a mere 50g extraction. I'm planning on doing a lot of experiments with the samples I get, which may or may not get destroyed in the process, and when it came down to the density of the oil, I wasn't sure how much of a yield 5g would look like opposed to a mountain of crystals.

I have taken heed from other members, and have decided to do my own research on the separation methods and/or find a method of crystallizing the oil matter through more food safe materials. As well, I was curious if NMT and DMT had diffent molecular masses, most likely, and if so, I can easily separate them with a combined solvent for example when you put oil in water, on a larger scale it will be easier for me to visually differentiate if a separation occurs. I was planning on dissolving them in a common denominator of the two such as vinegar, and seeing I can find other solubilities with other elements.

 

[dmt_spider]

wanted see if an abundant supply of ACRB would yield a much more crystallized form

a mountain of crystals

a method of crystallizing the oil matter

I'm new here, so forgive me if this is a silly question, but are crystals really that much better than goo? You seem quite fascinated by them - can you let me know what is so appealing? Aesthetically they do seem to be more pleasing than goo, but in terms of the effect?

 

[Nunyabiz]

IMO the goo is a pain to work with. Dosing, weighing, storing. As far as effects the goo is very powerful. A friend actually broke through on goo last night.

"When I pulled out the pan to put in my second pull, the solvent was extremely foggy and I could already see a fine line of crystallization,"

Same thing happened to me but when I tried to pour out solvent and allow crystal to dry they ended up melting away..:?: I ended up evaporating all the solvent to obtain my goo.. Good luck and please post results!

 

[Methodology]

IMO the goo is a pain to work with. Dosing, weighing, storing. As far as effects the goo is very powerful. A friend actually broke through on goo last night.

"When I pulled out the pan to put in my second pull, the solvent was extremely foggy and I could already see a fine line of crystallization,"

Same thing happened to me but when I tried to pour out solvent and allow crystal to dry they ended up melting away..:?: I ended up evaporating all the solvent to obtain my goo.. Good luck and please post results!

This is the really crazy thing, it looked like there was several grams of just N-n-Dmt in the dish after I took it out the next morning, like an insane amount of crystal, and you could see the NMT, as it was a more clumpy yellow texture. I got really excited, drained off the naptha, then let it evaporate. Few hours later, it was literally clear, with a few intense crystals in the upper corners of the dish, I managed to scrape about a gram of dark red goo off, with a consistency similar to a mix between taffy and maple syrup. It is extremely hard to work with (I really didn't believe what people said), as its very dense, I had to use a sewing needle just to spoon it onto a quarter off of the razor blade, and sandwich it in between another.

I have a digi handy, so I just weighed the quarter, then spooned it on until I hit a 1/3rd of gram (which in fact with pure N-n-Dmt would fill a normal sized 1 gram vial to the brim). I even think that I should have done more pulls, 1 pull one day, one pull the next day, and so on, since I got such a very small amount of oil off of 4 pulls. Have yet to try it, since my freezer smelled like naptha for the entire week and I had to throw everything in the fridge. Got some pics of the chamber fresh out of the freezer, and also some right after the naptha was poured off, to give you an idea of how to spot the NMT.

Was wondering if anyone knows of any good kind of dishes to use that are easy to scrape? My Pyrex ones have a mad dip around the corners which makes them incredibly hard to get the material off, was planning on trying out mason jars my STB-Tek bud always uses, but wouldn't it be hard to scrape around round corners? I'm gonna need a super flat dish with very sharp corners if I ever lurk for more NMT.

I managed to lift off the heavy crystallization around the corners, looked like it was a few grams of solid crystal, with how the formations looked, but after I weighed them, it was only 300mg, but it literally looked like glass shards similar to methamphetamine after it was dropped in the vial. I have yet to try any of this batch, but I'm going to be very weary when I do, I still don't know how well I would handle a breakthrough, my last near-breakthrough was super intense, I couldn't imagine a full on experience.

 

[magic9]

IMO the goo is a pain to work with. Dosing, weighing, storing. As far as effects the goo is very powerful. A friend actually broke through on goo last night.

"When I pulled out the pan to put in my second pull, the solvent was extremely foggy and I could already see a fine line of crystallization,"

Same thing happened to me but when I tried to pour out solvent and allow crystal to dry they ended up melting away..:?: I ended up evaporating all the solvent to obtain my goo.. Good luck and please post results!

This is the really crazy thing, it looked like there was several grams of just N-n-Dmt in the dish after I took it out the next morning, like an insane amount of crystal, and you could see the NMT, as it was a more clumpy yellow texture. I got really excited, drained off the naptha, then let it evaporate. Few hours later, it was literally clear, with a few intense crystals in the upper corners of the dish, I managed to scrape about a gram of dark red goo off, with a consistency similar to a mix between taffy and maple syrup. It is extremely hard to work with (I really didn't believe what people said), as its very dense, I had to use a sewing needle just to spoon it onto a quarter off of the razor blade, and sandwich it in between another.

I have a digi handy, so I just weighed the quarter, then spooned it on until I hit a 1/3rd of gram (which in fact with pure N-n-Dmt would fill a normal sized 1 gram vial to the brim). I even think that I should have done more pulls, 1 pull one day, one pull the next day, and so on, since I got such a very small amount of oil off of 4 pulls. Have yet to try it, since my freezer smelled like naptha for the entire week and I had to throw everything in the fridge. Got some pics of the chamber fresh out of the freezer, and also some right after the naptha was poured off, to give you an idea of how to spot the NMT.

Was wondering if anyone knows of any good kind of dishes to use that are easy to scrape? My Pyrex ones have a mad dip around the corners which makes them incredibly hard to get the material off, was planning on trying out mason jars my STB-Tek bud always uses, but wouldn't it be hard to scrape around round corners? I'm gonna need a super flat dish with very sharp corners if I ever lurk for more NMT.

I managed to lift off the heavy crystallization around the corners, looked like it was a few grams of solid crystal, with how the formations looked, but after I weighed them, it was only 300mg, but it literally looked like glass shards similar to methamphetamine after it was dropped in the vial. I have yet to try any of this batch, but I'm going to be very weary when I do, I still don't know how well I would handle a breakthrough, my last near-breakthrough was super intense, I couldn't imagine a full on experience.

All you should have to do is scrape up the reddish goo then spread it out. Do this for an hour. Eventually it will get a little more stiff. Spread it out a final time and leave it for a few days with some open air. It should dry to a sticky wax and over time dry wax and will be easy to work with.

OR you can wash it via sodium/carb and it will result in a crumbly tan wax. This is how my ACRB turned out using Sodium Bicarb: Cleaning ACRB Spice Sticky Brown to Crumbly Tan - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[arcologist]

You might want to try this technique for separating DMT/NMT if you are interested in getting nice crystals from ACRB. It's dirt simple and has yielded me very nice results.

 

[Methodology]

You might want to try this technique for separating DMT/NMT if you are interested in getting nice crystals from ACRB. It's dirt simple and has yielded me very nice results.

So let me get this straight... Would only a STB tek work for this kind of separation? I read through your tek and was confused as to the end result goo before the dry ice was added in. So would I have to go through your STB tek, with acetone, and fumaric acid, to reach the end resulting goo, or would my goo mixture work as well? I literally pulled about just as much dmt from the ACRB as you did in your picture, it all just melted into goo at room temperature.

From what I read, I could do my initial pulls, then put a small piece of dry ice in each precipitation chamber 2-3 times until all of the clumpy NMT crytals cake the bottom of the pan, then pour off the remaining solution, and then freeze precip. I was kinda of confused about the warm water bath, but the rest makes total sense, I have pics of the NMT clumping on my previous post precipitation, that match your description.

 

[Methodology]

Here are my NMT pics

 

[Methodology]

You can physically see where the NMT and DMT separate.

 

[arcologist]

So let me get this straight... Would only a STB tek work for this kind of separation? I read through your tek and was confused as to the end result goo before the dry ice was added in. So would I have to go through your STB tek, with acetone, and fumaric acid, to reach the end resulting goo, or would my goo mixture work as well? I literally pulled about just as much dmt from the ACRB as you did in your picture, it all just melted into goo at room temperature.

From what I read, I could do my initial pulls, then put a small piece of dry ice in each precipitation chamber 2-3 times until all of the clumpy NMT crytals cake the bottom of the pan, then pour off the remaining solution, and then freeze precip. I was kinda of confused about the warm water bath, but the rest makes total sense, I have pics of the NMT clumping on my previous post precipitation, that match your description.

You can go straight from your initial pulls to adding dry ice - I was just testing some different things in that first post. STB will work, but so would A/B.

You can do it at any point where you have your alkaloids in a solution with a non-polar solvent (i.e. naphtha or xylene). Xylene works better because it doesn't require the warm bath - with naphtha the DMT precipitates too due to the drop in temperature from the dry ice, it goes back into solution with the warm water bath (leaving the NMT residue). If you use naphtha, the warm bath is critical to ensure you don't leave behind any DMT. However, with xylene, you must salt-out your DMT using FASA.

Do post if you have any results.

 

[Methodology]

Just found this, I was scraping up the mess of goo that I had left sitting around, and putting it all into one vial. I'm moving out, so I was collecting all my shit, and was about to throw out, what appears to be almost a gram (maybe even more) of this goo mixture, that was sitting on my pan and in between some coins I used for storing this waxy nonsense. Later, after all the goo had settled inside my vial, I was cleaning off my cupboard tops, and found a container that I had used to store the spill off of naptha that I couldn't fit into my reusable fluid container, and it was empty. All the naptha had evaporated and it reeked like dmt, I found some nice crystal formations inside, much like the "pure" dmt that formed around the corners of my pan.

In my pictures, the "pure" dmt, liquified into a very shiny milky-way goo that sparkles when I look at it, even though it is surrounded by the jungle dmt that I got from the Acacia. When it first melted (by lighter) it was a pure liquid, like water, then I slammed in about a gram (previously weighed) of the nmt goo, then everything else I found in the container, heated, and liquified into one big gooey monster of a vial. In the pics, its a 1g marijuana oil vial.

 

[Methodology]

The last two pics are a front side (with the milky goo on the bottome), and the reverse of the vial with all amber goo covering that side of the bottom.