q21q21 tek = awesome

[anrchy]

So I havent finished all my pulls yet, and have to wait till tomorrow to pull the first two out of the freezer. Ill post yields when its all completed. But so far it is looking pretty darn awesome. Super stoked. (Pic is pull #1, after 12 hours of freeze precip)

I used Vodsels approach to the Q21Q21 tek, and so far it is looking very promising.

I just want to thank everyone here, Q21Q21, of course and Vodsel both for providing an easy to understand explanation of how to get the goodies!

100gm MHRB

 

[cyb]

Well that was worth a late night then....anrchic nightwalker...8)

 

[anrchy]

Well that was worth a late night then....anrchic nightwalker...8)

yessss it was hehe. Wish I didnt have to goto work today and work long hours all week. Oh Well, this weekend is gonna be awesome

 

[Vodsel]

Such pretty snowflakes, all of them different

Congrats, Anrchy. I'm glad my little report was useful to you, there's always some details to optimize (and to maximize yield) but I'm sure you won't be disappointed with what you got there. Keep us posted.

 

[anrchy]

Oh I wanted to add something as well. I spent the extra bucks on this stainless pot just for extracting. It has pour lips on both sides, the lid is glass but has deep walls that fit down farther into the pot. ALSO, on the lid, there are strainer holes that match up with the pour lips. One side the holes are bigger. The side with the smaller holes are perfect for this Tek.

I rigged a metal wire, much like a coat hanger wire, to hang down and hold my funnel. That way I could use the glass bowls with lids that seal for the freezer and easily filter the solvent. Now, the holes on the lid held back the MHRB/vinegar/lime/naphtha mixture so well I was able to tilt the pot ALL the way and only one small crumb fell onto the coffee filter but not into my freeze precip bowl.

This pot worked so well, I'm glad I went with it instead of the cheap $6 one. I couldn't figure out how I would use a funnel to put the solvent into a baking dish or bowl cause someone would have to hold it of something. So my little funnel holder came in handy for sure.

Vodsel, I think the bowl in your picture is the same bowl I'm using for freeze precip. It came with a tight sealing rubber lid.

 

[anrchy]

Ok so after the first two pulls i've got 0.608 grams.

Pull #1 315mg

Pull #2 293mg

I'm excited to see how much more I can get by doing a few more pulls. I really can't believe, i mean I had no idea how FLUFFY it was going to be! Literally like dry snow! I'm stoked!

 

[3rdI]

Hey anrchy,

Have you tried the salt tek with your current bark?

 

[Vodsel]

Vodsel, I think the bowl in your picture is the same bowl I'm using for freeze precip. It came with a tight sealing rubber lid.

Might be the same, although I used it for collecting and evaporation since my lids for those are not 100% reliable (I've seen them pop due to gas pressure). For FP I used an hermetic jar with a steel safe, the kind with a glass lid and a rubber ring for hermetic closing.

I'd like to know... How much lime have you used for the 100g? And roughly, what ratio of poured solvent/pulled solvent do you think you got?

 

[anrchy]

I used 100g of lime. I think, this is a rough gestimation, that I lost somewhere around 20-30% solvent in the MHRB mixture. I had already eye balled what 100ml looks like in the bowl usin water. But again it's a rough gestimation. I also saved the naphtha. It's in a mason jar sealed up. I could measure it and see what it's at currently if you wanted. I combined both pulls into the same jar as I poured it out of my precip container.

I literally got every drop I could, which was pretty easy since the design of the lid allowed me to tilt it as far as I wanted.

Would there be much loss if I pour off the naphtha into a measuring cup before pouring into my precip container? I just didn't want to do a whole lot of transfer and wanted to minimize the amount of time my pull was sitting out. Although I think I was hasty cause it really doesn't matter if some evaps off.

Also, vodsel what do you think of my yield so far is it decent or lacking? I can't remember how much was common per pull for this Tek.

 

[olympus mon]

Anarchy, here is a good tip for you. Something I like to do after all is said and done with my freezing. I collect all the used naptha and place in a large Pyrex baking pan with a fan on it for a few days evaporating all the solvent. I usually get a good amount of a darker more jungly dmt that couldn't fall out of the naptha in the freezer. Its sticky and not as potent but it definitely is still quite active and full of NN. Just keep it separate from your fluffy white spice. I like to use it to make changa as an added booster shot. waste not want not.

 

[Vodsel]

Thank you, no need to perform solvent measures if it's not easy. Particularly if you eyeballed the solvent initially. What you say gives me an idea already.

One thing that certainly helps to recover the maximum amount of solvent from the mix, right before pulling, is squeezing it against the bottom of the pot, using a flat lid or potato masher like a manual press, then loosening it up again after pulling.

I guess that simply marking with measured amounts the FP container with a permanent marker (or using a measuring FP container) would be the simplest way to find out.

Regarding yields, I do not have reliable statistics either... but according to what I've read your pulls look good, you should easily reach 1+% in the end. Remember to do 5-6 pulls... The only way to know for sure whether the tek is delivering a good yield or not, though (perhaps as 3rdI asked, if I got him right) would be comparing yields with another high-yielding method using the same bark.

EDIT: And agreed with Olympus Mon. I would expect to get in your case 900-1000 mg of white flakes and around 300 mg of oily jimjam after evaporating the used solvent.

 

[anrchy]

Thank you oly. I had planned something similiar but wasn't exactly sure "what" I was going to do with the solvent when I was finished. I think I might keep it for my next extractions as I still have bark. Then once I deplete the bark I can evap off the solvent and I should have a nice sized batch of some multi spectrum.

3rdi: I did some reading on that. I thought I had read that the salt doesn't work too well with the dry Tek, yields weren't noticeably different.

 

[anrchy]

Thank you, no need to perform solvent measures if it's not easy. Particularly if you eyeballed the solvent initially. What you say gives me an idea already.

One thing that certainly helps to recover the maximum amount of solvent from the mix, right before pulling, is squeezing it against the bottom of the pot, using a flat lid or potato masher like a manual press, then loosening it up again after pulling.

I guess that simply marking with measured amounts the FP container with a permanent marker (or using a measuring FP container) would be the simplest way to find out.

Regarding yields, I do not have reliable statistics either... but according to what I've read your pulls look good, you should easily reach 1+% in the end. Remember to do 5-6 pulls... The only way to know for sure whether the tek is delivering a good yield or not, though (perhaps as 3rdI asked, if I got him right) would be comparing yields with another high-yielding method using the same bark.

EDIT: And agreed with Olympus Mon. I would expect to get in your case 900-1000 mg of white flakes and around 300 mg of oily jimjam after evaporating the used solvent.

I had actually though about making my own measurement marks after I had done the pull, I wish I had cause I wanted to note as much info as I could. I'm definitely going to be marking my precip bowls with a few different amounts.

I did want to bring up that I had deviated from the Tek in two ways. One by accident, and the other due to being forced due to time restrictions.

The first was, I didn't leave the vinegar/MHRB mix for 4 days. It was a little over two days and if I had left it for the 4, well it would still be sitting right now and I figured this part wasn't a requirement.

Second, I attempted to use the correct amount of heat during the acid cook stage, so that it was approx 2 hours. Well I used a little bit higher heat than I wanted at first and that sped up this process. Causing the mixture to be a little more dry than I wanted and earlier than I wanted. I did add some water which helped but the mixing of the lime was horrendous. Not fun.

I need to find a more cone shaped/funnel shaped style of filters. I don't like how the coffee filters like to pull away from the funnel and collapse.

The bowls I used work amazing. It was really easy to scrape all the good stuff up and the lids are tight sealing so there's no chance of them popping off.

I migh be getting mixed up about what 3rdi was talking about. I had read some threads that talked of adding crude salt during the basification step. Is that the Tek your talkin about ?

 

[olympus mon]

Thank you oly. I had planned something similiar but wasn't exactly sure "what" I was going to do with the solvent when I was finished. I think I might keep it for my next extractions as I still have bark. Then once I deplete the bark I can evap off the solvent and I should have a nice sized batch of some multi spectrum.

3rdi: I did some reading on that. I thought I had read that the salt doesn't work too well with the dry Tek, yields weren't noticeably different.

One thing I have experienced when re-using naptha is that the dmt ends up being sticky and tacky making it hard to scrape off the glass and ruins the nice fluffiness we all love.

 

[anrchy]

Thank you oly. I had planned something similiar but wasn't exactly sure "what" I was going to do with the solvent when I was finished. I think I might keep it for my next extractions as I still have bark. Then once I deplete the bark I can evap off the solvent and I should have a nice sized batch of some multi spectrum.

3rdi: I did some reading on that. I thought I had read that the salt doesn't work too well with the dry Tek, yields weren't noticeably different.

One thing I have experienced when re-using naptha is that the dmt ends up being sticky and tacky making it hard to scrape off the glass and ruins the nice fluffiness we all love.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Not only is there residual DMT suspended in the solvent, but also some of the oils and other alks as well. The more you re use the more concentrated they all become. Duly noted.

 

[3rdI]

3rdi: I did some reading on that. I thought I had read that the salt doesn't work too well with the dry Tek, yields weren't noticeably different.

i didnt mean adding salt to the Q21 tek, i meant running a salt tek extraction that cyb posted to compare the yield between the 2.

 

[anrchy]

Sorry bout that, I did a search after I posted and realized that you were prolly talking about that very post.

Problem is that I can't get lye without ordering it online. Which I don't plan to do for obvious reasons. I really would like to be able to try out some lye teks and different techniques. My search for lye hasn't stopped but thanks to the meth heads I don't think I can get any locally.

 

[3rdI]

ok, fair enough, i like to order as little online as possible, so i know where your coming from.

anyway, enjoy your fluffy white fun fest, im sure you will

 

[Crazyhorse]

Aw man, you guys are going to make me paranoid now. I ordered like 8 lbs of lye not long ago, didn't really need that much but it was a great deal! Is this stuff being watched now or something? Should I be worried?

 

[cyb]

Aw man, you guys are going to make me paranoid now. I ordered like 8 lbs of lye not long ago, didn't really need that much but it was a great deal! Is this stuff being watched now or something? Should I be worried?

Na ...can't see it...
If they are going to watch Drain Cleaner (lye), there is going to be a lot of overflowing pipes out there.

@ anrchy...really must try that tek...your xtals look yummy..