The tek says with d-limonene the result will be 100% food save. I bought d-limonene, but the info on the bottle issues some serious warnings. To name a few: it can cause skin problems when you spill it on skin; that you should consult a physician when ingested orally; that it can be lethal if it accidentally ends up in your lungs; that it is toxic for organisms in the water. So, I am confused now. I understand that d-limonene should not end up in the dmt product. But some of it might, no? And then the question remains: is d-limonene really food save as advertised by Q21Q21?
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Q21Q21's tek with d-limonene
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Just my opinion is the so called food safe /nontoxic teks are not food safe and not non toxic .
If you do one of those overly complicated inefficent so called (safe)teks correctly you will get a clean product .
But you could get just as pure product with a much simpler s STB with lye and naptha , and there should be no solvent or lye left in your clean product .
The simple STB it is just as safe much more efficent and way less complicated if you follow basic safty procedures .
i absolutly am not an exspirt ,not a chemist .
This is just my opinion .
If you do one of those overly complicated inefficent so called (safe)teks correctly you will get a clean product .
But you could get just as pure product with a much simpler s STB with lye and naptha , and there should be no solvent or lye left in your clean product .
The simple STB it is just as safe much more efficent and way less complicated if you follow basic safty procedures .
i absolutly am not an exspirt ,not a chemist .
This is just my opinion .
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That is a good question. I think the food safeness is merely that - in the context of food. d-limonene comes from citrus peels. You've probably inhaled it before any time you cut a lemon, lime, orange, etc. It's also used as an industrial cleaner, I wash my hands with it at work every day.
But concentration matters. Pure d-limonene is going to be more dangerous than an orange or hand soap. I do recall when I extracted mescaline with d-limo, and was squeezing the solvent out of the cactus dough, it made my hands very dry and kinda itchy. While the soap uses a 1% to 20% concentration that is non-irritating.
I assume inhalation hazards are similarly dependent on concentration / quantity. If it were lethal to inhale any amount, we probably couldn't eat oranges. I don't recall any issues breathing the fumes. I'm not sure what it would take to cause damage via inhalation, but I think you probably have nothing to worry about.
That said, probably every extraction includes solvent residue. I haven't seen any studies on it, but I sent a very pure sample for analysis recently and was told there was weight lost from their drying method, indicating something volatile, (water or solvent) that was included in the sample. And that's after I purged the crystals under vacuum for an hour or so.
But concentration matters. Pure d-limonene is going to be more dangerous than an orange or hand soap. I do recall when I extracted mescaline with d-limo, and was squeezing the solvent out of the cactus dough, it made my hands very dry and kinda itchy. While the soap uses a 1% to 20% concentration that is non-irritating.
I assume inhalation hazards are similarly dependent on concentration / quantity. If it were lethal to inhale any amount, we probably couldn't eat oranges. I don't recall any issues breathing the fumes. I'm not sure what it would take to cause damage via inhalation, but I think you probably have nothing to worry about.
That said, probably every extraction includes solvent residue. I haven't seen any studies on it, but I sent a very pure sample for analysis recently and was told there was weight lost from their drying method, indicating something volatile, (water or solvent) that was included in the sample. And that's after I purged the crystals under vacuum for an hour or so.
i supose if your in an area with higher humidity it could effect the weight also ,
IF i were to store away diffrent things i would use an small dry pack(moisture absorber) and also an oxogen obsorbing pack .to lessen any oxidation over months or years .
IF i were to store away diffrent things i would use an small dry pack(moisture absorber) and also an oxogen obsorbing pack .to lessen any oxidation over months or years .
