Question: Strange trip. Has anyone else had this?

[terrapin]

Hey all, this is my first post and probably a noob question, as I have only blasted off once irresponsibly during a period of heavy drug use and I have no recollection of it. I asked a friend and he said its probably normal but I figured I would ask to see if anyone else has experienced something like this. Anyways, I am experienced in most psychedelics, but theres something about the ones that come on really strong to me that are scary. This is due to a salvia trip. It came on so suddenly and strong that I forgot I had smoked salvia and my world just ripped apart and i got crunched into a tiny ball and rolled into a white oblivion. I thought I was dying and I was screaming the whole time. Anywayyy, I managed to acquire a dmt source after like 10 years and I am in recovery from opioids so I am using it partly help my recovery and my mental health. It's worked wonders. Once a week on Tuesdays, I normally take around 2mg of a benzo, have a few beers and some weed, and take a couple pre breakthrough blasts. I know its best to enjoy the spice by itself but, I really enjoy the feeling this mixture gives me. Anyway, I guess I had taken a bit too much? But instead of the visuals I usually get, suddenly the birds and water outside my room started to kind of like, skip. or repeat, like a delay effect. It was sudden and reminded me kind of like that salvia trip but no bad feeling of getting crushed into a ball. Just a super jarring, intense, world destruction type thing. And the weird thing was there wasn't any visuals? Or I don't remember any i just remember like, white. anyways the sounds gradually got more intense and faster and faster and louder and then all the sounds seem to converge in some kinda climax and i opened my eyes and was back in my room, but the room was all trippy like coming down from the normal visuals of a pre breakthrough dose. I am guessing this was like, the start of a blast off? I have read different experiences but they a lot of them vary and I cant really find one similar to this. and I know theres absolutely nothing i can do to prepare for one. Its just the sensation wasn't very pleasant, And I'm hoping if that happens every time I blast off, that sensation doesn't last the whole time. If I wasn't on Xanax I probably would have got way more freaked out cause it was wild and very like, unusual and sudden. But it's weird that I skipped the normal part of the pre breakthrough visuals right? I'm worried it wasn't some weird seizure, but I guess the Xanax would have stopped one of those! Again, sorry if this is just a super noob question and its a normal blastoff lmao. Thanks a lot guys. Much love.

 

[Pandora]

terrapin,

Welcome to the Nexus. I love your user name.

Were you using a scale? Did you weigh your dose of spice or did you actually try to eyeball it and get some unknown dose?

There's a lot of things that could have happened here.

The flora and fauna in hyperspace are very diverse and sometimes we see nothing. It could be because of other drugs in our system or other things going on in our minds.

If you dose too low you might not get the visuals you expect.

If you dose too high you might completely black out for the breakthrough experience and just remember parts of the come down.

Personally I cannot take Benzos but everybody tells me they shut down a trip. Could the benzo dose have crushed the visuals? Maybe others will have input.

Again, welcome.

 

[terrapin]

Hey, thanks for the reply and the warm welcome!

What you said makes a lot of sense. I eyeballed it, I know I should really invest in a scale but, this is the first time I really went overboard by accident, I always try to go a bit lower to avoid something like this. However, with this experience I think I should just get one already. It was just a completely different beast compared to the lower dose effects haha. This may seem obvious but, to me it was just so strange and jarring! It goes completely beyond what experiences I had with high doses of other hallucinogenics. I think its partly the super fast onset it rocks your world and you don't really have time to adjust before you are blown away. I talked to my friend and he said that experiences can greatly vary, sometimes shapes n colours, sometimes entities, sometimes a whiteout, sometimes an every day scene with normal people like a dream. I find this extremely interesting. Another factor is I am on an SSRI for anxiety. After researching it I came to the conclusion freebase is ok but no MAOIs. Which sucks cause I got a couple grams of amazing changa I did once before I found out it was no bueno. Anyway, I need quite a bit more spice than the average person cause of the SSRI, and if a benzo indeed does block it too, then I would need even more . Tough to figure out doses for me because of those factors! The benzo helps me with pre flight jitters and comedown minor tremors too as I am an anxious person by nature but perhaps I should overcome my fears and get into the habit of enjoying spice on its own. Sorry for rambling, it's really cool to be able to discuss this stuff with people who are experienced. I was all over erowid and shroomery as a kid but never had a chance to acquire dmt until a few months back. He is a godsend! I shall report back after I eventually gather the courage to do this again.
Love

Take care!

 

[Voidmatrix]

Rarely are DMT trips "standard." That is, they tend to be different every time. Your experience is pretty normal.

I'd recommend opting for some CBD and meditation to calm yourself before journeying. CBD will not block effects in the same manner as benzodiazapines, and meditation will help you find your own will power so hopefully you won't need anything to calm yourself before entering the space.

Tolerance builds negligibly, so you can feasibly have several journeys in the same day and same sitting. Start with a dose that you think will get you to where you're trying to be, and then increase by increments of 5mg until you find the right dose for you.

Welcome to the Nexus.

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[terrapin]

Rarely are DMT trips "standard." That is, they tend to be different every time. Your experience is pretty normal.

I'd recommend opting for some CBD and meditation to calm yourself before journeying. CBD will not block effects in the same manner as benzodiazapines, and meditation will help you find your own will power so hopefully you won't need anything to calm yourself before entering the space.

Tolerance builds negligibly, so you can feasibly have several journeys in the same day and same sitting. Start with a dose that you think will get you to where you're trying to be, and then increase by increments of 5mg until you find the right dose for you.

Welcome to the Nexus.

One love

Note: Try to avoid sourcing talk please

Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the sourcing talk, I shall avoid it in the future. I will try CBD, I have heard it works wonders for many ailments. It's good to know my experience is somewhat common. It was just completely alien from any experience I expected or heard of, which is what my friend said was was gonna happen haha. I was originally under the impression, as many people are I think, that it was gonna be Terrance Mckenna elves because of that iconic interview where he describes it. To me it came across as him explaining that was going to be THE dmt experience, if that makes any sense. Perhaps he goes into detail stating otherwise during the other part of the interview but I just saw that clip. Anyways, thanks again for the reply and the welcome!
Love

 

[Voidmatrix]

Rarely are DMT trips "standard." That is, they tend to be different every time. Your experience is pretty normal.

I'd recommend opting for some CBD and meditation to calm yourself before journeying. CBD will not block effects in the same manner as benzodiazapines, and meditation will help you find your own will power so hopefully you won't need anything to calm yourself before entering the space.

Tolerance builds negligibly, so you can feasibly have several journeys in the same day and same sitting. Start with a dose that you think will get you to where you're trying to be, and then increase by increments of 5mg until you find the right dose for you.

Welcome to the Nexus.

One love

Note: Try to avoid sourcing talk please

Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the sourcing talk, I shall avoid it in the future. I will try CBD, I have heard it works wonders for many ailments. It's good to know my experience is somewhat common. It was just completely alien from any experience I expected or heard of, which is what my friend said was was gonna happen haha. I was originally under the impression, as many people are I think, that it was gonna be Terrance Mckenna elves because of that iconic interview where he describes it. To me it came across as him explaining that was going to be THE dmt experience, if that makes any sense. Perhaps he goes into detail stating otherwise during the other part of the interview but I just saw that clip. Anyways, thanks again for the reply and the welcome!
Love

Yeah, while McKenna gives the caveat that it's his experience, he speaks of it in a manner that seems like incontrovertible fact :lol:

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[Pandora]

There is a decent chance that if you do mid to high dose DMT again in the future you may very well get memorable visuals and encounter autonomous hyperspatial entities. I do hope you will continue to keep us posted.

 

[HippyDippy]

With a few blast-off's under my belt now, I feel like i may be able to weigh in here. I am not on any pharmaceuticals so I cant really say anything about that part. However, my last 2 breakthrough experiences did not grant me with memorable visuals. Now this doesnt mean that I didnt see anything, it just means I cant remember anything from my trip other than the first 30 seconds, and part of the comedown.
Now I do have a mg scale, so I know that my last 2 doses were at 50mg. These were vaped with temperature control.
I still saw what I see each time I go through the "waiting room", but then I dont remember anything until I was coming down and wishing the experience would last longer. I have a feeling it was due to taking such a high dose, but the purity was suspect and I wanted to "get there".

A new batch is currently drying out. Once it is done, I am going to try smaller doses to see if I get my visuals back.

 

[Voidmatrix]

With a few blast-off's under my belt now, I feel like i may be able to weigh in here. I am not on any pharmaceuticals so I cant really say anything about that part. However, my last 2 breakthrough experiences did not grant me with memorable visuals. Now this doesnt mean that I didnt see anything, it just means I cant remember anything from my trip other than the first 30 seconds, and part of the comedown.
Now I do have a mg scale, so I know that my last 2 doses were at 50mg. These were vaped with temperature control.
I still saw what I see each time I go through the "waiting room", but then I dont remember anything until I was coming down and wishing the experience would last longer. I have a feeling it was due to taking such a high dose, but the purity was suspect and I wanted to "get there".

A new batch is currently drying out. Once it is done, I am going to try smaller doses to see if I get my visuals back.

Generally, higher doses can be harder to remember, especially if vaporized effectively. If you've done way too much, you barely remember the come up. You know you went through something and that it was intense and impactful but for the life of you can't recall any details.

Lower your dose. Extend and potentiate with harmalas. And safe travels

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[Icyseeker]

I feel that I should add that memory is not infallible. I am constantly forgetting things. I think part of the experience is just living it in the moment and accepting what is given at the moment.

I SMOALKED a few years ago and I while I still have some key memories most of it is lost in the fog of the past.

 

[Voidmatrix]

I think part of the experience is just living it in the moment and accepting what is given at the moment.

Yeah, I feel this. I've let the importance of remembering some of these experiences slide. It's gotten harder as they've gotten more alien over time.

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