Rare Combos (Any experience?)

[maranello551]

Salvia quid + Iboga?

Salvia quid + Ayahuasca

Salvia quid + Mushrooms/Psilohuasca

Salvia quid + Amanita

Amanita + Iboga

Amanita + Ayahuasca

Anyone?

 

[cyb]

I once had a horrible nightmare...it looked Exactly like your post ^

 

[maranello551]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm fairly new to forums. This the first one i've participated in. Could you help me out with some format tips if that's the problem you see? Other than that I couldnt find much info on these combinations and their effects. Is it wrong of me to turn to you guys for insight on this?
Not sure what your customs are again, sorry. I beg of your patience as I learn.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Erowid has an advanced search function that allows you look up specific combinations of drugs in the Experience Reports section.

Here's what it returns for Salvia Divinorum and Ayahusca

Search Results : Erowid Experience Vaults

Erowid Experience Vaults: An Experience

www.erowid.org

Some of those are pretty obscure, so you might not find much. I can tell you that no one is going to have reports on Iboga because it is just so hard to get a hold of, especially in the USA.

I'm not sure Cyb was being mean, it's possible he just meant that those all sound like really unpleasant combinations.
I'm of the opinion that Saliva doesn't mix well with much. Including me.

Blessings
~ND

 

[cyb]

it's possible he just meant that those all sound like really unpleasant combinations.

Yes...just being humorous
They do sound like horrendous and potentially disastrous combos.

Why are they of interest to you?

 

[maranello551]

Well for a number of reasons actually. First off, in addition to Aya and high dose mushrooms (which are almost identical for SWIM), salvia (smoked) is the most profound experience SWIM's had to date. He has yet to try oral/quidded but he has found that after the first time he smoked it, every time would feel like (oh yea this is what salvia is, how could I forget?) Like it was the most obvious thing in the world. It felt as if salvia simply reminded him of something and it was that memory that triggered the perspective change. Like rather than showing him a new reality, it felt as if it reminded him to see that alternate reality (kind of like I forgot to open my eyes and suddenly remembered). He got the impression that if he could somehow bring back that recurring memory triggered by the salvia, he could access the view of that reality without using the salvia at all. That reality/point of view however seemed so unsettlingly bizzare however that it's almost as if SWIM represses it every time in order to avoid horror.

The quid intrigues SWIM as he's yet to try it. He believes that it would be far easier to brign back the secret if the experience were prolonged and stretched out (whether he do it through recording his vocalized thoughts during the experience or simply writing down the "secret".) He looks forward to trying the quid as soon as possible, but has a hunch that the hypersensitive state that mushrooms and Aya put him in would make the entire task more successful, perhaps the time dilation would be of great help as well.


Next, Amanita's he's tried but they were old and brown and he didn't feel them, despite the 20g or so consumed. However, he's heard widely varying reports on the effects ranging from "they suck" to "way more profound than ayahuasca". So he'd like some insight on the true nature of the substance and how this supposedly at times super profound experience would interact with the DMT/psilocybin teacher, especially seeing as I hear that harmalas enhance the amanita experience as well.

Iboga I hear interesting things about including that it cancels out DMT experiences so I chose not to inquire on that combination, however I hear from some that it is in respects similar to salvia so I was hoping on insights as to synergy. I'm sure SWIM will experience Iboga at some point but he feels that point is still distant.

Lastly the Iboga/Amanita combo came to mind as they are amongst the most intriguing experiences SWIM has heard of to date.

Of SWIM would go on and mix and match if they are recommended aka. Iboga/Amanita/Salvia, Ayahuasca/Amanita/Salvia.


One recent interesting combination SWIM attempted with amazing results was the Psilohausca/San Pedro combo. ++++

SWIM's next project is either adding mushrooms or San Pedro or both to his rue/acrb Anahuasca.

 

[Infinite I]

I ate some amanita one night and then smoked quite a bit of salvia leaf, both low doses really, 5-6g of dried amanita then smoked salvia repeatedly got a major dose of the giggles and became an orange ceramic gutter and the square men were pushing me from side to side, I couldnt stop laughing at the absurdity of it

Theres a guy who combines weird and wonderufl things, he wrote a book about all these different combinations in different dosages Dramamine or something with salvia and lsd and other strange things. Sure he created some brain machine thing that changed the waves of your brain, he wrote a book guys names on the tip of my tounge cant remeber though anyone?? I couldnt afford the book at the time but there was a great podcast on psychedelic salon with him, hilarious storys one of the best ones Ive heard, the name will come to me, ill post when it does unless someone else knows who Im on about?? cheers

 

[maranello551]

I ate some amanita one night and then smoked quite a bit of salvia leaf, both low doses really, 5-6g of dried amanita then smoked salvia repeatedly got a major dose of the giggles and became an orange ceramic gutter and the square men were pushing me from side to side, I couldnt stop laughing at the absurdity of it

Theres a guy who combines weird and wonderufl things, he wrote a book about all these different combinations in different dosages Dramamine or something with salvia and lsd and other strange things. Sure he created some brain machine thing that changed the waves of your brain, he wrote a book guys names on the tip of my tounge cant remeber though anyone?? I couldnt afford the book at the time but there was a great podcast on psychedelic salon with him, hilarious storys one of the best ones Ive heard, the name will come to me, ill post when it does unless someone else knows who Im on about?? cheers

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. That is great! Could you tell me little more about what the amanitas did for you before taking the salvia hit/hits?

 

[Infinite I]

I ate some amanita one night and then smoked quite a bit of salvia leaf, both low doses really, 5-6g of dried amanita then smoked salvia repeatedly got a major dose of the giggles and became an orange ceramic gutter and the square men were pushing me from side to side, I couldnt stop laughing at the absurdity of it

Theres a guy who combines weird and wonderufl things, he wrote a book about all these different combinations in different dosages Dramamine or something with salvia and lsd and other strange things. Sure he created some brain machine thing that changed the waves of your brain, he wrote a book guys names on the tip of my tounge cant remeber though anyone?? I couldnt afford the book at the time but there was a great podcast on psychedelic salon with him, hilarious storys one of the best ones Ive heard, the name will come to me, ill post when it does unless someone else knows who Im on about?? cheers

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. That is great! Could you tell me little more about what the amanitas did for you before taking the salvia hit/hits?

Quite a bit of naseua then felt really sleepy but didnt fall asleep but was on the verge of it, then kinda woke up from the stupor and felt really relaxed like our minds were so quite with no mind chatter at all, nice effets, that was about it then we started smoking the salvia. Usually Im a salvia hard head and hardly get much from it but had a great time with it was all pretty low dose stuff, first time the amanitas had worked for me and unfortunately the last time I took them.

 

[Entheogenerator]

I don't have experience with any of these combo's, but I would advise you be cautious with combining ayahuasca and other drugs. I'm no expert on ayahuasca interactions, but aya + amanitas strikes me as something that could potentially be either dangerous or incredibly unpleasant.

 

[Infinite I]

Name just came to me names zoe7 just googled him first bloody thread is here Jamie reporting that he died thats sad! Think this is the podcast I heard http://www.matrixmasters.net/salon/?cat=65 cant listen just now to check but one I heard is tooo funny hes having sex with this entity and well its just hilarious, always remeber the name namemilimin or something. But yeah read about him really interesting out there combo's I read a lot about him after hearing that but never got the book, mayne get it now really sad hes died at the time I was like this guy is a pioneer of psychedelic combinations.

 

[cubeananda]

Don't want to contribute to this as if it is some shroomery thread
This is serious stuff we are talking about here but here is an idea:

MDMA plus smoalked NMT?

 

[Infinite I]

Don't want to contribute to this as if it is some shroomery thread
This is serious stuff we are talking about here but here is an idea:

MDMA plus smoalked NMT?

Are you being sarcastic?? mdma + nmt?? also this isnt the shroomery so your not going to get people going yeah man I took ten pills and a bunch of shrooms then had a line of k and wow that was the shit so you dont want to contribute because???? I dont understand.

Yes it is serious stuff and I personally think its very interesting to hear of such combinations, for a while I had planned on combining quidding salvia with ayahuasca after reading an amazing report of such combination in a ceremony, but quidding had minimal effects normally and my salvia hard headedness put me off plus the taste on aya ugh horrible but yes I would love to hear others contributions on such novel combinations. Got to listen to the zoe7 report its podcast 38 btw its funny stuff worth checking out RIP

 

[maranello551]

If you don't want to have to stand the taste of aya, perhaps quidding on pharma? If that's hard to come by, using a higher musroom dose or a psilohuasca should mimic the aya nicely and hopefully boost that quid's effects for you. SWIM would be very willing to try that if he had the fresh leaf to use. Perhaps he could rehydrate some dry leaf and try it. If he does, he will definitely try the quid alone first, then the combination, and the report back.

Interesting to note that he got for a moment some very salvia-like landscape visuals while combining psilohuasca (2g rue/2g mushrooms) with just a small amount (probably about 7-10" worth) of San Pedro tea. A normally threshold dose of SP if even that completely changed the nature of the psilohuasca both visually and in terms of headspace. Beautiful fusion. Still needs to experiment with rue and SP alone and mushrooms and SP alone to see where the synergy originates from. Perhaps it only comes about with all three combined. It is epic. If that turns out to be the case, salvia quid will then be combined with the combination SWIM discovered induced those salvia/landscape visuals. Time to find the origin of the greatness, double the SP dose, and if that's not salvia-ish enough, quid some sage.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

I don't have experience with any of these combo's, but I would advise you be cautious with combining ayahuasca and other drugs. I'm no expert on ayahuasca interactions, but aya + amanitas strikes me as something that could potentially be either dangerous or incredibly unpleasant.

I agree with the above. Be careful

 

[cubeananda]

Don't want to contribute to this as if it is some shroomery thread
This is serious stuff we are talking about here but here is an idea:

MDMA plus smoalked NMT?

Are you being sarcastic?? mdma + nmt?? also this isnt the shroomery so your not going to get people going yeah man I took ten pills and a bunch of shrooms then had a line of k and wow that was the shit so you dont want to contribute because???? I dont understand.

Yes it is serious stuff and I personally think its very interesting to hear of such combinations, for a while I had planned on combining quidding salvia with ayahuasca after reading an amazing report of such combination in a ceremony, but quidding had minimal effects normally and my salvia hard headedness put me off plus the taste on aya ugh horrible but yes I would love to hear others contributions on such novel combinations. Got to listen to the zoe7 report its podcast 38 btw its funny stuff worth checking out RIP

I simply meant that I wanted to contribute to this thread as sincerely as possible.

TBH MDMA and NmT clearly has extremely valuable therapeutic potential.

 

[universecannon]

I've heard good things about salvia quidding with ayahuasca, in the right dosage/context. I've only done small amounts so far but it was pleasant. Jamie has a great report in it titled 'salviahuasca'

I can't speak on those other combinations. Be very careful with them. I think it's probably best to become familiar with high doses of each alone before mixing, and god help those who do it willy nilly

 

[Infinite I]

Don't want to contribute to this as if it is some shroomery thread
This is serious stuff we are talking about here but here is an idea:

MDMA plus smoalked NMT?

Are you being sarcastic?? mdma + nmt?? also this isnt the shroomery so your not going to get people going yeah man I took ten pills and a bunch of shrooms then had a line of k and wow that was the shit so you dont want to contribute because???? I dont understand.

Yes it is serious stuff and I personally think its very interesting to hear of such combinations, for a while I had planned on combining quidding salvia with ayahuasca after reading an amazing report of such combination in a ceremony, but quidding had minimal effects normally and my salvia hard headedness put me off plus the taste on aya ugh horrible but yes I would love to hear others contributions on such novel combinations. Got to listen to the zoe7 report its podcast 38 btw its funny stuff worth checking out RIP

I simply meant that I wanted to contribute to this thread as sincerely as possible.

TBH MDMA and NmT clearly has extremely valuable therapeutic potential.

Oh I totally misunderstood my mistake!

And yes universe cannon I'm sure it was Jamie's reports that got me interested. Also agree with getting used to high doses of each thing before combining, or even low dose of each thing but I wouldn't want to waste iboga or ayahuasca when experimenting with low doses with other things.

 

[psyconaught89]

Salvia quid + Iboga?

Salvia quid + Ayahuasca

Salvia quid + Mushrooms/Psilohuasca

Salvia quid + Amanita

Amanita + Iboga

Amanita + Ayahuasca

Anyone?

Be careful with combos like that. Please

But 2.5g rue/3.5g mush changed my life.it was the farthest ive gone.
It was terrifying but beautiful at the same time.if I were to smoke salvia during that time it would be a nightmare imo

Just be careful

 

[maranello551]

Like I said if you get another shot at rue + mush, try adding some San Pedro or any mescaline cactus to the mix (rue first then mush and cactus together 40 min - 1 hour later). It is amazing and completely different. AMAZING. Rue potentiates both mushrooms and cactus which in turn synergize wonderfully.