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Reality Is A Scripted Computer Simulation For The Soul

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mjc490 said:
dragonrider - I do find it interesting to try and consider exactly what the soul is. one way to consider it, as you have stated, that it is a conscious entity. but we dont know much more than that.

one thing i think about sometimes is solipsism. that is the belief that we cannot prove anything but the self exists. now i consider this view (solipsism) to be depressing, and i dont believe it fully. who would want to be all alone down here?

but i have stated before, that some of the beings out there are just NPCs (non-playable characters). I believe that the self is conscious, and a portion of the beings out there are conscious as well. so we are not alone. but there is no reason all the beings out there have to be conscious. some could just be NPCs.

thanks for the input everyone! :)
But why? And how would you find out wich ones are counscious, and wich aren't?

Often, when people are very deeply engaged in the kind of mental activity that is typical of counscious beings, like daydreaming, thinking about something, meditating, or remembering something, they look a bit like zombies. They seem to be not realy there, because their mind is in another place.

It would be all too easy to see them as NPC's, while in fact they are the exact opposite of that.
 
mjc490 said:
but i have stated before, that some of the beings out there are just NPCs (non-playable characters). I believe that the self is conscious, and a portion of the beings out there are conscious as well. so we are not alone. but there is no reason all the beings out there have to be conscious. some could just be NPCs

Have you ever contemplated the idea that perhaps there is no one here at all? That maybe your own conception of yourself is just that, a conception, and that it has no more validity than anything else you see externally to your point of view.

The whole image you have of yourself, of body and mind, is a projection that is being witnessed by something more real. There is no real logic in the belief that some projections have consciousness and some don't when all the projections inevitably emanate from the same fabric, like rays of light from a single source.

I think your thinking is biased, inheriting the Western conception of separate parts, one fitting into another i.e a soul into a body-mind. Have you ever contemplated the possibility that all of this is spontaneous motion and that consciousness (or soul) does not enter from outside or within, but rather emerges in unison when any physical form arises from the combination of elements (which in themselves are rooted in consciousness itself).

To put it another way, it is like when a bubble is blown. The form of the bubble is conceived by motion or breath of life, and we witness the surface of the bubble as its form. But we don't see the air inside, or outside, that maintains the form. The bubble would not exist or continue to exist without the air inside and outside, which is consciousness. It is inseparable from the bubbles existence, as it is for every bubble ever.

I put it to you that humans, all organic life, is not much different from the bubble. We are bubbles of earth. We are all forged of the same material and imbued by the same breath of life.
 
Brutal and beautiful XSS27.

On a similar note, that is why I'm bewildered we can neglect animism has something true when our own identities are the result of a very deep interaction with the natural world. In such an intricate way and over such long periods of time. How is it rational to conceive ourselves holding an identity and to put clear limit of this process of identification with ourselves ? That this identity levitates in and off itself without touching what surrounds it ? Especially when the foundation of what has enabled our specific capacities is said internalization of the world at a very intimate level.

yet there is still a logic to the perceptual experience of entities. But i think when such an interpretation is made, it is overly grounded in vision. Whereas the psychedelic experience always involve synesthesia. And from the moment sight and touch blend, then something like seeing in front of you and beside you is possible. And so are "impossible" objects or extra dimensional beings. Feeling out of the body might happen too, because sight is the only sense that will reach the sky and beyond.

So there's an amusing reversal taking place, because by precisely tearing this veil of illusion you might create more ones. That is if it the illusion of the outside of sight is not fully realized, that we process things through ourselves, in this orbital cave. And maybe then, all there is left to do is to . go . blind

(is it possible, to be blind and see? To bath in darkness while witnessing the myriads ripples of the sun?)
 
xss27 said:
mjc490 said:
but i have stated before, that some of the beings out there are just NPCs (non-playable characters). I believe that the self is conscious, and a portion of the beings out there are conscious as well. so we are not alone. but there is no reason all the beings out there have to be conscious. some could just be NPCs

Have you ever contemplated the idea that perhaps there is no one here at all? That maybe your own conception of yourself is just that, a conception, and that it has no more validity than anything else you see externally to your point of view.

The whole image you have of yourself, of body and mind, is a projection that is being witnessed by something more real. There is no real logic in the belief that some projections have consciousness and some don't when all the projections inevitably emanate from the same fabric, like rays of light from a single source.

I think your thinking is biased, inheriting the Western conception of separate parts, one fitting into another i.e a soul into a body-mind. Have you ever contemplated the possibility that all of this is spontaneous motion and that consciousness (or soul) does not enter from outside or within, but rather emerges in unison when any physical form arises from the combination of elements (which in themselves are rooted in consciousness itself).

To put it another way, it is like when a bubble is blown. The form of the bubble is conceived by motion or breath of life, and we witness the surface of the bubble as its form. But we don't see the air inside, or outside, that maintains the form. The bubble would not exist or continue to exist without the air inside and outside, which is consciousness. It is inseparable from the bubbles existence, as it is for every bubble ever.

I put it to you that humans, all organic life, is not much different from the bubble. We are bubbles of earth. We are all forged of the same material and imbued by the same breath of life.

isnt the air just putting pressure on the thin membrane that also encompasses us???
 

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