Recommended freebase smoking method

[reun]

Hi all,

I've been experimenting with DMT vape carts, and I love their convenience, but they do come with downsides, so I've been thinking about alternative methods for smoking freebase.

First, the reason I'm not particularly keen on carts are listed below

• Finding the right DMT to carrier liquid ratio is non-trivial and once you are committed to a certain value, you need to allocate some spice to it
• High DMT concentrations lead to recrystalisation problems
• Smoking can be genuinely challenging, since you need 3 or more inhalations to get far, and in that state, making those inhalations is difficult
• Some countries have restrictive vaping rules making it difficult to obtain and restock equipment like vape carts

It's also worth noting that I've considered a sub-ohm set up, but due to legal restrictions, I'm unable to get one for now.

With all this in mind, I've been considering trying out the machine. As I understand it, I can effectively replace the machine with a genie bottle like this, although I would still need the mesh. Am I getting this right?

I have a few questions about this smoking alternative:

• First, would a genie bottle with a mesh work in place of the machine? Can you recommend any other freebase alternatives that may have advantages of this? Ideally from the same store that I linked earlier, because Australia, where I live, has banned a lot of devices
• Is it acceptable to smoke DMT that way indoors without worrying about the odour?
• I've seen a tutorial on how to setup the machine here and they say that you don't have to start inhaling the moment you start vapourising DMT, however in another tutorial here they say that you must start inhaling immediately -- can anyone help me resolve this?
• Are there any safety concerns when it comes to dropping the pipe? I've only experimented with a vape on lower amounts and I've always been able to put the vape down, I'm just not sure about a big hit from the machine
• Are there whiteout risks with this setup? I understand that if you smoke too much, then it can happen, but the idea is that you shouldn't burn any spice and therefore you shouldn't load more than you need, right?
• If you prefer this method over vaping: can you share your own perspective? What about the reverse -- anyone switched from pipes to carts?
• If you are working with freebase DMT, do you have any tips on freebase storage? I keep it in a small bottle in a dark, dry place with a sellica gel packet

Thank you!

 

[TransistorBass]

If you are able simply stick with the vape juice and add some Harmalas to your sessions.
40-60mg sublingual Harmalas 30-60 mins before vaping. Though the best inhibition of MAO I’ve had has been from Changa, subsequent hits on the vape take you way deeper and will last longer.
I can imagine a proper hit on an oil burner pipe after a bowl of Changa would easily take you mega deep.

 

[reun]

If you are able simply stick with the vape juice and add some Harmalas to your sessions.
40-60mg sublingual Harmalas 30-60 mins before vaping. Though the best inhibition of MAO I’ve had has been from Changa, subsequent hits on the vape take you way deeper and will last longer.
I can imagine a proper hit on an oil burner pipe after a bowl of Changa would easily take you mega deep.

Thanks for the suggestion! So the idea is to microdose on harmalas (e.g. 50 g dose) an hour before smoking -- you are suggesting to place harmalas under the tongue and let them dissolve, right? Then an hour later I would smoke from my vape. At 50 g of harmalas, I understand that MAO inhibition would be mild, so I'm trying to imagine what it would do to the vaping part. Would it make it longer, deeper and/or would it reduce the cooldown period, allowing me to smoke again sooner? Regarding changa: I'm planning to prepare some soon, but just to make sure I understand: are you suggesting trying out smoking changa and then smoking from a vape?

That's some useful advice, I haven't encountered these ideas previously, so, thank you!

I would still love to hear some thoughts on the machine setup and the considerations around smoking freebase DMT from others

 

[TransistorBass]

Thanks for the suggestion! So the idea is to microdose on harmalas (e.g. 50 g dose) an hour before smoking -- you are suggesting to place harmalas under the tongue and let them dissolve, right? Then an hour later I would smoke from my vape. At 50 g of harmalas, I understand that MAO inhibition would be mild, so I'm trying to imagine what it would do to the vaping part. Would it make it longer, deeper and/or would it reduce the cooldown period, allowing me to smoke again sooner? Regarding changa: I'm planning to prepare some soon, but just to make sure I understand: are you suggesting trying out smoking changa and then smoking from a vape?

That's some useful advice, I haven't encountered these ideas previously, so, thank you!

I would still love to hear some thoughts on the machine setup and the considerations around smoking freebase DMT from others

Sublingual 40-60mg (Milligrams) Extracted Harmalas, hold in the mouth for as long as possible, its until you have too much saliva and have to swallow, 5-10mins.
Then 30-60mins later start vaping. It makes the effects last 2-3x longer and sometimes come in waves, I find doing 2-3 second hits to get into a nice headspace followed by 5-6 second hits can tip you over into cartoon-wonderland aka Squid-World to be pretty easy then.

Changa is a bit of a different beast, things flow in waves. But Yes, when I've Vaped after Changa its pretty clear there is plenty of MAOI going on in the brain and again its easy to tip over almost seamlessly into the world of peace and gratitude in Squid world! ha