endlessness said:
Spiceman, but how do you know? Subjective essay only or also analytical tests? Where there double blind tests done?
I know because Ive most likely smoked dmt and related substances some 50,000 + times in my life. Im by no means a great chemist on par with shulgin or even some of the greats here.. but I think having that much experience with these substances I can tell, albeit subjectively that they are nothing like DMT.
Some analytical work has been performed over the years... extensively so on the "earwax" de/hep pulled "jungle."
Some blind tests have been done throughout the years... freinds have sampled ... always being told they were smoking a psychadelic tryptamine only... and then asked a series of comparative questions.. I performed double blinds on the "earwax" and the yellow powder*?*?these basically consisted of all night smoking fests with diffrent people loading diffrent substances for eachother, including myself... tripping balls.. and discussing our experiences in depth. But the taste varies so much from product to product that once someone smoked one, they knew what they were getting the next time.
This allowed for a one shot per person trial of all said substances. However the red jungle refined free of the red never recieved a "double blind, just plain old smoke and explain analysis. ... thats about as analytical as one can get without 25,000 $ worth of lab equip...
sure Ive used various regeants and acids to produce a wide array of results concerning the analysis of these compounds, and my main point is thus...
ThESE COMPOUNDS ARE NOT , I repeat NOT constituted of any significant amount of DMT.. and I do mean down to the mcg clean in most instances....
By the way that last pic I didnt get to explain yesterday (The yellow powder) was pulled using methanol and koh, room temp... soaked mhrb powder in said solution... strained.. evapped liquid.. extracted with naptha until it stopped pulling any sizeable amount of dmt... then the solvent was swithed to benzene and heptane seperately,3 pulls each, combined and evapped.
.. Residual solids were washed free of dmt by several washes of hot naptha... a yellow oil remained.
The oil was dried over 120 degree heat and silica beads for about 48 hours.. it was still oil at around 30 hours.. checked again in 48 and it was found to be solid....
solids were re-x from dry acetone to yeild the freebase yellow powder you see in the above mentioned pic... as a side note to further state that it is NOT mostly DMT ..... a hydrochloride salt of this was produced and was NOT HYDROSCOPIC.... it formed a pretty yellow crystalline and dry salt. We all know dmt hcl stays as a goo in that salt form.
Before I made the salt I was thinking I had isolated perhaps an oxide of either dmt of one of the other compounds I had perviously removed from mhrb... so the zinc proccess was used and it was found that this was atleast not DMT n oxide which Ive smoked enough times anyways to be fully aware of the effects and they are NOTHING alike.)
Its extremely psychadelic.... providing more of a combined 2ct2/5meo experience than that of dmt... i know thats hard to grasp but trips are hard to put into words.. im sure you know what I mean when I say that... Thats atleast Three substances other than DMT , Dmt-n-oxide and the minor beta Carboline which I have pulled from MHRB and have proven atleast to myself and several others that they are 99%+ DMT FREE.
Peace and godspeed!