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red yellow white spice whats the difference?

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burnt thanks allot for laying this out like you did. White, Yellow, Orange. and Red.
This dreamer partakes of all of them. I have done enough extractions now that I know exactly each color and I know how to do it not by using a bunch of different solvents.

Naphtha and heptane are all I use and with those two solvents I can get fine crystally white I cand get shiny fine yellow powder I can get big dense orange or amber cystals and I can get red waxy gooey sludge that is highly active. My experience with both of those solvents is that there are three determining factors that decide the color and consistency of my final product. and those are-

How long did I let the solvent soak in bark/base/H2O solution.
How warm was my bark/base/H2o solution and solvent when I am pulling my material.
Did I evap or freeze precipitate or a combo of the two.

Ant combination of these three factors listed above will give me a predictable noticable variation of results.

I must say here I have Zero chem background. I have done so many extractions now(over a hundred) by the monkey see monkey do method that I have learned how to get it right every time. I can now hypothesize or guess why my spice is a certain color or consistency with excellent accuracy.

If you were to tell me- IH do me up a batch of red jungle spice using heptane I could. If you said do a white, orange, or yellow using heptane I could.

I am glad you made this post because I needed someome with some chem experience to fill in the blanks for me with regard to potency.

You stated that the red was 97% DMT and the yellow only 90%. I like the red better but I always assumed it was not as pure. I though the bright yellow shiny powdery spice was much purer and the white being purest.

I would like to be able to provide more info here I just dont have the chem mind to be able to lay out all of my findings. I have considered making a spread sheet or graph depicting the parameters I use to get my different colors of spice.

I NEVER re x. The way I pull and seperate and filter, I never have to worry about contams. I am careful and meticulous. Soooo What comes out of my solvent is what I use. Depending on how it comes out decides how I'm going to use it, ie make changa, use for pharma, or vape via GVG.

I must say that when I pull my solvent I do know in advance how the product is going to come out and that is because of the time and temps I used during the soak. Oh yes and weather I'm going to evap or freeze precip.

I have been wanting to know for a long time what the chemical differences are in the different product I am pulling.

I am convinced I could never tell the difference between 100% pure and 90% pure. I have tested allot of different spice.

Thanks burnt.
Hi Ice House, great work! Could you, without exact details, give a general guideline as to how to arrive more at the white crystals side of the spectrum vs yellow goo, in terms of soak times and temps. I'm using hexane as my NPS, NaOH as my base and doing STB, but whether I try to freeze out the crystals, decant and then evaporate, or go straight to evaporation, I keep getting the same yellow goo. I'm working at room temperature (25C) and allowing about a 24hr soak between pulls with regular mixing. Any advice as to general temps and soak times that would yield a more crystaline product would be greatly appreciated. MHRB powder from Chiapas, Mex is the source material.

Thanks for any advice you can offer!
 
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