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Researching what you see
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Nathanial.Dread
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Many people report that the visions they see follow fractal patterns.
In that regard, I highly recommend you look into the works of Mandelbrot, as well as research done in the last 20 years in the field of chaos theory.
I am studying math and chaos theory, so perhaps these speak to me more then most people, but I have found a tremendous amount of meaning in my work and the work of others when analyzed through the lens of the DMT experience, or by simply mediating on fractals and dynamical systems while actually traveling.
You can also take a look at the Wikis Hyperspace Lexicon. It's a collection of events, entities and locations that many DMT travelers experience.
What do they mean? That's largely up in the air at the moment.
wiki.dmt-nexus.me
I will say that I have visited 'The Void' a few times and have noticed some interesting things about it.
Question for thought: I have often felt that the world of Hyperspace is 'round,' and oftentimes when I see The Dome, it feels like I am looking at the inside of my own head. A pet theory I've been developing is that perhaps DMT makes you more spatially aware of your conscious and brain, and so perhaps the dome and hollow orb shape are actually your brain processing the physical distances inside your skull.
In that regard, I highly recommend you look into the works of Mandelbrot, as well as research done in the last 20 years in the field of chaos theory.
I am studying math and chaos theory, so perhaps these speak to me more then most people, but I have found a tremendous amount of meaning in my work and the work of others when analyzed through the lens of the DMT experience, or by simply mediating on fractals and dynamical systems while actually traveling.
You can also take a look at the Wikis Hyperspace Lexicon. It's a collection of events, entities and locations that many DMT travelers experience.
What do they mean? That's largely up in the air at the moment.
Hyperspace lexicon - DMT-Nexus Wiki
I will say that I have visited 'The Void' a few times and have noticed some interesting things about it.
Question for thought: I have often felt that the world of Hyperspace is 'round,' and oftentimes when I see The Dome, it feels like I am looking at the inside of my own head. A pet theory I've been developing is that perhaps DMT makes you more spatially aware of your conscious and brain, and so perhaps the dome and hollow orb shape are actually your brain processing the physical distances inside your skull.
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You could check out Psychedelic Information Theory by James Kent, he tries to break down psychedelic visuals and visions in a reductionist manner, interesting stuff and you can get the ebook free.
Also check out Ralph Abraham, a mathmetician who specialises in chaos theory and has a vast experience with psychedelics dating from the late 60's onwards. This outtake from the DMT Spirit Molecule documentary is interesting from a master mathmaticians POV:
Ralph Abrahams talks about DMT
Interesting. I had a similar experience but on DXM (a much maligned dissociative because of high school kids abuse of cough syrup, but it can be very illuminating when used correctly). I entered a vast underground reservoir of dripping pinks, reds and browns that was populated by reptilian entities. In hindsight, it felt like I was taken down to the base of the human brain and viewed our lower reptilian part of the brain in action (check Maclean's Triune brain theory).
Also check out Ralph Abraham, a mathmetician who specialises in chaos theory and has a vast experience with psychedelics dating from the late 60's onwards. This outtake from the DMT Spirit Molecule documentary is interesting from a master mathmaticians POV:
Ralph Abrahams talks about DMT
Nathanial.Dread said:
Interesting. I had a similar experience but on DXM (a much maligned dissociative because of high school kids abuse of cough syrup, but it can be very illuminating when used correctly). I entered a vast underground reservoir of dripping pinks, reds and browns that was populated by reptilian entities. In hindsight, it felt like I was taken down to the base of the human brain and viewed our lower reptilian part of the brain in action (check Maclean's Triune brain theory).
I tried to learn more about this and ended up doing a lot of interesting reading about various symbols in various cultures and seemed to have found that in many cases there were amazing levels of conservation, and diversification of a rather limited number of symbols in terms of specific personages or spirits. As if in many cases the same spirits were accessed by different cultures and while being called after different names, the names often had common meanings, and the spirits having remarkably similar personalities, properties or aspects and appearances or evocations.
There is a symbol, widely conserved, that is described variously as a gateway or a crossroads, it has distinct yet coinciding properties making it as a state, a place and a doorway. This gate is rather easy to reach, but difficult to pass, for most who encounter it do not know it for a gate, but for a place, and do not know of or invoke the keeper of the gate or crossroads, who isn't saint Peter by the way, but saint Peter has been used as a symbol for him to hide reference to him from western cultures.
This place or gate is also as a place of visions, they come through the gate, so to speak, but the gate is also like a mirror.
In general the visions are personalized, while the manifestations of the spirits are less person specific. It is very difficult to identify personalized visions for another person, though some are skilled at it, it is not easily done with media such as reading what someone writes online. However there do appear to be potentially identifiable entities, or personalities or spirits... these are easier to identify and interpret in terms of symbolism.
The first question to ask is often for a description, as in: Visions of what?
There is a symbol, widely conserved, that is described variously as a gateway or a crossroads, it has distinct yet coinciding properties making it as a state, a place and a doorway. This gate is rather easy to reach, but difficult to pass, for most who encounter it do not know it for a gate, but for a place, and do not know of or invoke the keeper of the gate or crossroads, who isn't saint Peter by the way, but saint Peter has been used as a symbol for him to hide reference to him from western cultures.
This place or gate is also as a place of visions, they come through the gate, so to speak, but the gate is also like a mirror.
In general the visions are personalized, while the manifestations of the spirits are less person specific. It is very difficult to identify personalized visions for another person, though some are skilled at it, it is not easily done with media such as reading what someone writes online. However there do appear to be potentially identifiable entities, or personalities or spirits... these are easier to identify and interpret in terms of symbolism.
The first question to ask is often for a description, as in: Visions of what?
Fascinating question. Even more fascinating answers. Tomorrow, I intend to click on the links provided by Nathaniel.Dread, and InnerPathstoOuterSpace. AlbertKLloyd also brings up an excellent point. A while ago, I remember thinking about the constellations, and although I do not have any research to refer, I recall hearing Joseph Campbell's interviews by Bill Moyers, entitled The Power of Myth.
Campbell considers the fact that such artifacts as the pyramids are found diffused, as for example in South America and of course Egypt, despite the fact that all but a few contemporary thinkers believe that there was any diffusion of peoples which would permit such diffusion of culture and technology.
It begs the question whether such ideas were innate or were invoked, perhaps through spiritual ceremonies, from a universal source.
Campbell considers the fact that such artifacts as the pyramids are found diffused, as for example in South America and of course Egypt, despite the fact that all but a few contemporary thinkers believe that there was any diffusion of peoples which would permit such diffusion of culture and technology.
It begs the question whether such ideas were innate or were invoked, perhaps through spiritual ceremonies, from a universal source.
AlbertKLloyd said:
In this experience of mine, for example, I manage to solidly identify a mythological entity with whom I was completely unfamiliar. It didn't simply resemble the mythological creature. It looked like it down to the detail in the proper Egyptian aesthetic.
Nathanial.Dread said:
In terms of the dome shape, I recall reading in some esoteric literature how curved spaces such as vaulted domes, cones (like the Native American tipi), arches, etc...have a particular affinity for configuring the ethereal energy. Curved spaces are associated with the feminine archetype. Typically when I find myself in the "dome" in hyperspace, it's the living room in this elaborate mansion (populated by entities) that has a large vaulted ceiling. I can relate to feeling like you're inside your own head with other experiences however. There have been several times where I remarked to myself that it felt as if I was journeying to the furthest reaches of the back of my head. These usually result in some pretty sacred experiences.
