"Why do humans tend to think we are here for any kind of reason?? Why would there have to be a reason? It seems that we are a product of the chemistry, life has been created in the lab ya know, would it have a purpose for exsiting also?"
Good question..Reason is something humans made up i think..there doesnt have to be any "reason"..but somehow it all happened..what does chemistry have to do with it?..chemistry seems to be something that is a part of it..but it comes after the fact..
when I hear peple make these kinds of arguements it's as if they are now worshipping chemistry..I undertand your point perfectly..but chemisty is what builds us..but what builds chemisty..why chemistry?..why not something else?..I dont even think there has to be a why..but there still could be..
Creating life in a lab doesnt really say much about what I am talking about..the potential for life already existed through chemistry and physics anyway, before we were here..we are just utilizing chemistry and physics..thats where science is good. Science can do alot for us..
Do you not think there is a point where the known laws of physics break down?..what about before the sopposed "bing bang"?..what about apparent black holes? doesnt mean there is supernatural things..I dont believ in the supernatural..I think everything has a natural explainating..we just dont understand it yet..but hat is not even really what i am talking about..
When you talk about chemistry and what not..that is workingwithina certain modality..becasue you still need to adress where chemistry came from..where physics came from(what birthed it, or proceeded it, differnt from reason or purpose)..if you want to think the laws of physics are the end all be all thats fine..but personally that makes no sense to me and seems just as silly as believing in the supernatural. havent you ever wondered about things like what the universe could have been like before the big bang..if it ever happened? The laws of physics they say became apparent while things were cooling down and properties were crystalizing out..at a time of higher temperature things were more "one"..
So if you entertain that idea for a second..than it seems quite clear that it's possible that the laws of physics..and everything that comes out of those laws..came after the fact..so why should the laws of physics be the farthest back thing to look upon for our origin, explaining everything?..and I am not talking about human origin..but the origin of everything.. if you really look at science for long enough this place starts to look like one big damn miracle, and that it is quite amazing in itself without the need of supernatural things..that is what I mean when I talk about spirituality..some scientists dont like to entertain ideas like spirtuality along with scientific thinking becasue they feel they loose objectivity..but is it healthy or even rational to attempt to ALWAYS be objective about every littel thing?..we do have a left brain AND right brain..probabily for good reason.
I know what you mean when you talk about people and the spirits of salvia etc..I talk liek that alot of the time as well..especially reguarding salvia..but when I say things liek that I am not necessarily talkingabout literal supernatural spirits..though I havent ruled it out..and I feel differently about it depending on which day you talk to me as well..becasuse I jsut dont know..i mean, have you ever smoked salvia? Seems a good enough metaphore for the experience at least.
Many days I think it's really about the way that people choose to approach these things, spirit or no spirit..
Good question..Reason is something humans made up i think..there doesnt have to be any "reason"..but somehow it all happened..what does chemistry have to do with it?..chemistry seems to be something that is a part of it..but it comes after the fact..
when I hear peple make these kinds of arguements it's as if they are now worshipping chemistry..I undertand your point perfectly..but chemisty is what builds us..but what builds chemisty..why chemistry?..why not something else?..I dont even think there has to be a why..but there still could be..
Creating life in a lab doesnt really say much about what I am talking about..the potential for life already existed through chemistry and physics anyway, before we were here..we are just utilizing chemistry and physics..thats where science is good. Science can do alot for us..
Do you not think there is a point where the known laws of physics break down?..what about before the sopposed "bing bang"?..what about apparent black holes? doesnt mean there is supernatural things..I dont believ in the supernatural..I think everything has a natural explainating..we just dont understand it yet..but hat is not even really what i am talking about..
When you talk about chemistry and what not..that is workingwithina certain modality..becasue you still need to adress where chemistry came from..where physics came from(what birthed it, or proceeded it, differnt from reason or purpose)..if you want to think the laws of physics are the end all be all thats fine..but personally that makes no sense to me and seems just as silly as believing in the supernatural. havent you ever wondered about things like what the universe could have been like before the big bang..if it ever happened? The laws of physics they say became apparent while things were cooling down and properties were crystalizing out..at a time of higher temperature things were more "one"..
So if you entertain that idea for a second..than it seems quite clear that it's possible that the laws of physics..and everything that comes out of those laws..came after the fact..so why should the laws of physics be the farthest back thing to look upon for our origin, explaining everything?..and I am not talking about human origin..but the origin of everything.. if you really look at science for long enough this place starts to look like one big damn miracle, and that it is quite amazing in itself without the need of supernatural things..that is what I mean when I talk about spirituality..some scientists dont like to entertain ideas like spirtuality along with scientific thinking becasue they feel they loose objectivity..but is it healthy or even rational to attempt to ALWAYS be objective about every littel thing?..we do have a left brain AND right brain..probabily for good reason.
I know what you mean when you talk about people and the spirits of salvia etc..I talk liek that alot of the time as well..especially reguarding salvia..but when I say things liek that I am not necessarily talkingabout literal supernatural spirits..though I havent ruled it out..and I feel differently about it depending on which day you talk to me as well..becasuse I jsut dont know..i mean, have you ever smoked salvia? Seems a good enough metaphore for the experience at least.
Many days I think it's really about the way that people choose to approach these things, spirit or no spirit..