It seems that quite a bit of the orange oil binds to the water somehow. It smells and tastes like oranges..pretty sour. How much orange oil is safe to ingest? Swim says, it burns a bit on his tongue, but not much.
rumplestiltskin said:So has anyone (SWIY) tried using straight carbonated water yet, completely eliminating the vinegar? I heard someone's girlfriend gobbled up some mescaline carbonate and it took nearly 5 hours for effects to be felt! That seems like a very long wait; is this normal for SWIY's gf, or is it possible that the carbonate takes that long to break down and be fully absorbed? SWIM also wonders how much carbonated water needs to be used when pulling? Anyone else had a chance to bio-assay yet? Oh yeah, a pic is worth a thousand words; thank you Fati!
obliguhl said:It seems that quite a bit of the orange oil binds to the water somehow. It smells and tastes like oranges..pretty sour. How much orange oil is safe to ingest? Swim says, it burns a bit on his tongue, but not much.
obliguhl said:It seems that quite a bit of the orange oil binds to the water somehow. It smells and tastes like oranges..pretty sour. How much orange oil is safe to ingest? Swim says, it burns a bit on his tongue, but not much.
69ron said:That's interesting.
SWIM found that mescaline HCl absorbs more slowly than mescaline acetate. It seems like mescaline carbonate absorbs even slower than mescaline HCl. I wonder why?
amor_fati said:...so SWIM thinks that limonene could be holding onto small amounts of acetic acid.
69ron said:amor_fati said:...so SWIM thinks that limonene could be holding onto small amounts of acetic acid.
I believe that is possible. Acetic acid is soluble in a quite a few solvents.
I hope these little details gets cleared up. It would be really nice to use just carbonated water.
PlainCoil said:Well, just using seltzer water in place of vinegar worked great at least once for SWIM.
PlainCoil said:SWIM thinks the key might be using fresh seltzer water, as the carbonation goes down and more and more of it is required for the same results.
Any brand of club soda is going to have carbonated water plus some or all of the preservatives you listed. What you want to look for is "Sparkling Water" which should have only the sole ingredient of carbonated water. Brands will probably vary, but around here you can find Faygo brand sparkling water pretty easily. Though, I have no idea if that would contain enough carbonic acid or not. If you use enough tabs, would Seltzer have a lot higher concentration than your average carbonated water would?Myzinc said:SWIM has been reading about Salting out Mescaline Carbonate using Seltzer Water. SWIM is very eager to try this with leftover d-limonene from vinegar pulls. SWIM can only find Seltzer Water with ingredients like: carbonated water, sodium bicarbonate, sodium citrate, potassium sulfate, disodium phosphate. SWIM would like to find a brand name that would be only carbonated water. Ingredients listed are from Canada dry low sodium.
Does anyone have a suggestion of a name brand?
Does anyone think Canada dry will be OK?