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Salvaging DMT from (very) poor quality changa

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Satyr604

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Greetings.

A while back I got a hold of some changa a friend of mine made. When smoking it, it was horrible. I wouldn't say ineffective, it worked, but he made the 10x caapi with some type of denatured alcohol.. Which is a dumb thing to do. It's harsh, it's foul and can make one very sick.

Now, he used about a gram of DMT in this product. A shame to let that go to waste. I was thinking to give the changa a naphtha-bath. Since alcohol is a polar solvent and naphtha a non-polar one, I reasoned that the stuff added in the denatured alcohol would not dissolve into the naphtha. It would get out the DMT.

Is my reasoning right? Or am I completely off the mark? I'd hate for this amount of DMT to go to waste because of some guy's poor technique.
 
I don't know but denaturated alcool it's nasty, i prefer to trow away, wait if someone more expert can help you, i don't know if you can get rid the toxic in denaturated.
 
while it might be painstaking, you might be able to separate the caapi from the mix, if indeed that is the only "polluted" element of the blend.

when i made my caapi extract, the product was heavy, thick and black. it was easy to differentiate from the other herbs. it also weighs significantly more than the other leaf. if the blend is not ground too finely, you might be able to take away/pick over some of the caapi and be left with a more pure mix.

this is also one of the reasons i stopped using 10x caapi in my blends: since it is so much heavier and it seemed to be covered in a glaze-like resin, i found it to screw up the dosing. it never seemed to absorb as much spice as the other leaf, so when i would weigh my portion, if it was heavy on the caapi i would find the effects to be much less than if the portion contained more leaf and less caapi. i like to be accurate.

this might help - this might not - just thought i'd put it out there...

cheers
 
Do you know what kind of denatured alcohol it is?
I know that these days it is most of the time denatured with denatonium benzoate because of its bitter taste.

You could maybe wash with water to wash away the pollutant and do a naphta extraction afterwards.
 
He still had the alcohol around. The exact ingredients listed: alcohol, water, methyl ethyl ketone (=butanone) and linalylacetate.

He also mentioned he did not use a solvent to infuse the caapi with DMT. He melted the spice on top of the caapi and stirred it in.

Again, the stuff does as advertised. It just feels, tastes, smells.. I don't know, toxic. That's what got me thinking and asking about his methods and ingredients.
 
If you reckon you've got about 1g of DMT then put the whole batch of changa in around 100 ml of non polar solvent (naphtha, heptane or whatever). Warm it in a water bath (big saucepan or similar but with no flame present) to around 45 degrees and agitate for 5 minutes. Filter it through coffee filter paper and collect the liquid that comes off. Let it evaporate in a warm place till you see a few crystals start to form. Put it in the freezer and leave it over night to ensure all the rest of the spice freeze precipitates out of solution. Pour off the liquid in the morning and turn the solid product out on to some paper to dry thoroughly for a few hours.

This is a pretty rough and ready method but it'll do the trick and won't bring over anything that's unpleasant.
 
@NotTwo

do you think this process also would carry over any of the harmalas or just the spice?

as far as i understand harmalas are not very soluble in heptane but im still a novice when it comes to the chemistry.
 
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