CataractSurgeon
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Do you all find sleep trouble when using the various types of preparations?
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Sleep disruption and DMT or DMT/harmalas
- Thread starter CataractSurgeon
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With harmalas I can still sleep but I feel that I am more alert and I wake up earlier than usual without feeling less energetic
I have always had sleep problems. With DMT I remember my dreams better and they are more colorful. This causes short term sleep disruption to a degree, but is helping me with the issue long term, in general.
Harmalas always help you bring back more.
Harmalas always help you bring back more.
TheGreenPhantom
Titanium Teammate
It always puts me to sleep for an hour.
Harmalas can make my insomnia worse.
A few mg of DMT vaped however has a reverse effect. I have used it for that purpose when I wake up and can’t fall back asleep.
A few mg of DMT vaped however has a reverse effect. I have used it for that purpose when I wake up and can’t fall back asleep.
CataractSurgeon
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I think I take too much - my doses at higher levels are crazy stimulating- I tried like 1/3 of my prior Harmine today and early on 9am and once I felt it hit - I had a 23 mg IM DMT trip which lasted 80+ with many waves then 2-3 hrs after glow - still panic at peak but I let the loop not form or end quickly x2 - got to look around. Big 
CataractSurgeon
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yesterday I did what is low dose for me 20mg IM harmine and it both gave me a super sedated long IM DMT 22mg trip and many waves but I was soooo tired at 9-11 am and then all day - and still too buzzed to sleep - high dose makes me energetic buzz and energetic long dmt trip with waves but definitely can’t sleep - sigh
Later at 4 I still felt wiped by the 9am harmine -I don’t like the sedation and so I guess I’m just no more harmine at 4pm I did 15-20 mg - I thought about 17 by my measurements -IM dmt - about 30 min -wow not what I expected -no tollerance period after 7 hrs !
VERY shockingly intense at this lower dose with no added harmine - like 15-20 blew me out to a waiting room with super cool fractals and a glimpse of what my breakthrough might look like with incredible cool new cubic fractals in distance when I could focus - with my annoying mental panic flash coming from all directions loud and attempting to loop me in which I had to constantly avoid and redirect to presence - which then offers nice reward but a wave comes and panic strobe comes again - no body panic but loud annoying mental panic desperate to pull me in over nothing - very hard work to not give it energy- it goes nowhere - it’s nonsense but so frustrating too -
Whew - I wasn’t expecting this from 15-20mg IM I thought I’d get a dreamy shroom like trip but DMT does what it wants
I’m having a hard time working up to breakthrough dose which I know it 45-50 IM for me to be SURE to get past the ego panic after most likely shooting straight through it which will be short craziness I hope -I’m fearful of and also feel I have some tools for it -
Damn this stuff is so complicated in all ways
Later at 4 I still felt wiped by the 9am harmine -I don’t like the sedation and so I guess I’m just no more harmine at 4pm I did 15-20 mg - I thought about 17 by my measurements -IM dmt - about 30 min -wow not what I expected -no tollerance period after 7 hrs !
VERY shockingly intense at this lower dose with no added harmine - like 15-20 blew me out to a waiting room with super cool fractals and a glimpse of what my breakthrough might look like with incredible cool new cubic fractals in distance when I could focus - with my annoying mental panic flash coming from all directions loud and attempting to loop me in which I had to constantly avoid and redirect to presence - which then offers nice reward but a wave comes and panic strobe comes again - no body panic but loud annoying mental panic desperate to pull me in over nothing - very hard work to not give it energy- it goes nowhere - it’s nonsense but so frustrating too -
Whew - I wasn’t expecting this from 15-20mg IM I thought I’d get a dreamy shroom like trip but DMT does what it wants
I’m having a hard time working up to breakthrough dose which I know it 45-50 IM for me to be SURE to get past the ego panic after most likely shooting straight through it which will be short craziness I hope -I’m fearful of and also feel I have some tools for it -
Damn this stuff is so complicated in all ways
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You have to also consider the usage frequency, if you're doing it multiple times a week it's not surprising if your sleeping and waking patterns get disturbed. It's one of the most powerful and otherworldly experiences one can have, your body and mind need time to process and recover. The extended trip with IM or oral route is probably even more taxing. Eventually, your body will adapt by dampening the effects.
Take a rest, fall back to baseline, experiment with harmalas alone, find what suits you best.
This equally applies to the repeating fear/panic loops you talk about in other posts.
Good luck
Take a rest, fall back to baseline, experiment with harmalas alone, find what suits you best.
This equally applies to the repeating fear/panic loops you talk about in other posts.
Good luck
Pumpy
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No but I 've only tried homemade Syrian Rue freebase
CataractSurgeon
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Thank you - I have done Harmalas alone by a few routes - I’m extremely sensitive to them get very high - hallucinate a bit too - mild but there -You have to also consider the usage frequency, if you're doing it multiple times a week it's not surprising if your sleeping and waking patterns get disturbed. It's one of the most powerful and otherworldly experiences one can have, your body and mind need time to process and recover. The extended trip with IM or oral route is probably even more taxing. Eventually, your body will adapt by dampening the effects.
Take a rest, fall back to baseline, experiment with harmalas alone, find what suits you best.
This equally applies to the repeating fear/panic loops you talk about in other posts.
Good luck
I’ve had this annoying mind panic since I first tried vaping anything over like 10 mg too - not heart not breathing just wacko strobe lights and trying to make me fearful - I’m trying to covert it into rocket fuel and ask for it next time - it’s my energy I’m gonna use it how I want !
