I remember reading an article about harmala that stated the seeds should be chewed and kept in the mouth for at least five minutes. This seems to correlate with your observations.
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Can harmalas cause insomnia?
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Yeah, depends on how much your chewing, for me i need at least 30 mins to fully chew 4-5 grams
Does it also affect your sleep in any way, such as causing insomnia, like the OP mentioned?
I had a low dose last night (or, tbh, early this morning - I got a bit carried away listening to music after @benzyme's stream!) along with a 2 mL tester of 'TnT' mim tincture and slept like a baby - I woke up screaming, and wanted boobies - actually I slept a solid 7 hours and the dreams were weird enough, but not such that they actually woke me up. Because I only got to drink the first brew of my Saturday night 3.33 g, this was the 2nd - 5th brews of that and a couple of other batches. 5 brews will exhaust ground or crushed seeds to the extent there's absolutely no point in doing a sixth one, btw. Chances are this wasn't enough to really activate the mim, but the dose there was likely at the micro end of the scale anyhow.
The fun bit is that I told a joke in the dream which I actually remember:
what do you call someone who works at a very busy ice cream stand?
Constance Cooper...
The fun bit is that I told a joke in the dream which I actually remember:
what do you call someone who works at a very busy ice cream stand?
Constance Cooper...
harmala_afficianado
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Most of the time yeah, especially with higher amounts, if i take more than 7-8g even in the morning i will very likely not get a good nights sleep that day, ive tried alot of different herbs/plants that can help insomnia but none of them did anything except for blue lotus, it seems to directly target the cause of the rue stimulation ime, but i dont like the after effects of blue lotus tbh, mugwort works but only once or twice, if i keep taking it it will stop working, kava also helps but not consistently, you can try valerian, chamomile, lemon balm, cloves, magnesium, they all somwhat help but they dont instantly fix it ime.
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I think lower amounts are not a big issue for insomnia, they are mostly abit relaxing, it is at higher amounts that the stimulant effect overrides the sedative effect, ime.I had a low dose last night (or, tbh, early this morning - I got a bit carried away listening to music after @benzyme's stream!) along with a 2 mL tester of 'TnT' mim tincture and slept like a baby -I woke up screaming, and wanted boobies- actually I slept a solid 7 hours and the dreams were weird enough, but not such that they actually woke me up. Because I only got to drink the first brew of my Saturday night 3.33 g, this was the 2nd - 5th brews of that and a couple of other batches. 5 brews will exhaust ground or crushed seeds to the extent there's absolutely no point in doing a sixth one, btw. Chances are this wasn't enough to really activate the mim, but the dose there was likely at the micro end of the scale anyhow.
The fun bit is that I told a joke in the dream which I actually remember:
what do you call someone who works at a very busy ice cream stand?
Constance Cooper...
