Smoked Some Vine

[Global]

After reading around about smoking vine, I came to realize that it is largely discouraged. From what I read, it seemed that one of the big drawbacks was that it doesn't taste good. Not sure if this is the only reason why it's discouraged, but I decided to do some personal experimentation and smoke the vine by itself. I loaded up a bunch of shredded vine into the bong and cleared it all in two hits. Very instantly after exhaling, the room kinda started to warble back and forth. I was in a very weird headspace, but quite manageable nonetheless. The sensations were quite neutral, but very prominent. It was quite strange because when I closed my eyes I very distinctly saw DMT patterns - very cave-like. It was quite baffling as I had smoked no DMT.

So I guess the two main questions I would like to pose are

#1: Is that normal to see DMT-like patterns from simply smoking caapi?

#2: Is the only drawback to smoking vine the taste? If so, much of my changa made from blue lotus and calea seem to taste significantly worse.

 

[ouro]

I never smoked vine, but very few things taste worse than calea.

ps: smoking almost anything has the drawback of messing up your lungs.

 

[Global]

Right, I understand that. I was really looking to know if there were any drawbacks regarding MAO inhibition

 

[gibran2]

How big was your dose? I’m guessing it was somewhere around 100mg? If so, and if you had very strong vine (about 3% alkaloids), then that would mean you inhaled about 3mg of alkaloids. I don’t know if that’s a big dose or not, but it sounds small.

I get very good effects from 15-25mg sublingual alkaloids. The effects aren’t strong enough to produce visuals on their own, but they enhance a vaporized DMT experience and don’t involve any smoking at all.