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Smoking monomescaline citrate is not recommended

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Loveall

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There have been some claims (e.g. reddit) that the product from the CIELO TEK (monomescaline citrate crystal) is smokeable.

I would not do this. The organic salt may have unwanted degradation products such as citraconic anhydride and its isomer itaconic anhydride. These anhydrides are respiratory sensitisers—chemicals that, on inhalation, can trigger an allergic reaction varying from hay fever symptoms to anaphylactic shock.

TEK has been updated asking to not attempt smoking the crystals.

The tested and reccomended ROI is oral administration and the TEK has rough dosage recommendations based on user experience and HCl salt equivalent suggestions from outside sources.
 
It really seems that I see alot of people attempting smoke acidic substances lately with disastrous results. One example is the Vitamin E Acetate scare from a couple years ago. Cutting those carts with Acetate is what hurt and killed all those people the Vitamin itself is inert at smoking temperature. Low PH smoke is highly caustic and can caise irreversible damage to the lungs. BE CAREFUL.
 
Really seems to me like the Reddit crowd gets more shit for brains as time goes on. There is so much misinformation there about entheogens and producing them... I feel like Reddit is for the impatient lazy ones who don't have time for things like reading/studying teks, much less attempting to understand the science behind the tek, forget it...
 
I think that's where I found the most threads of people claiming they extracted stable psilocybin and smoked it. It's an absurd idea at best. Reminds me of the stories as a teenager I had heard of people smoking LSD dipped joints, that never ever happened and smoking fungus or fungal extracts is dangerous at best and will result in a big fat nothing but smoke.
 
All solid points.

I would like to ask, although not something I'm interested in but something I'm curious about has anyone ever come across a trip report on smoking freebase mescaline?
 
Reading the thread title, my thoughts were of course "no sh!t, Sherlock!" People will try dumb stuff in an attempt to get high (I know I have). This is why accurate information - and its sufficient availability - is crucial for harm avoidance.
_Trip_ said:
All solid points.

I would like to ask, although not something I'm interested in but something I'm curious about has anyone ever come across a trip report on smoking freebase mescaline?
While this is something I've also wondered on occasion, all I've seen here is a few mentions of smoking dried cactus material. It was claimed that it didn't do anything when smoked during a baseline state but if used during an oral mescaline/cactus brew experience there was some enhancement of effects but this is clearly anecdotal and could be placebo. Apologies also for the lack of a reference/link.
 
DFZ,
All good, I searched and saw those posts previously. I also searched a few other forums but no solid trip reports on smoking freebase mescaline.
 
ijahdan said:
Not being funny, but how about snorting it?
The monomescaline citrate might be too acidic for that to be comfortable or even advisable. It would be better to use a more neutral salt. Loveall's recent production of a 2:1 mescaline malate seems interesting in that respect.
 
downwardsfromzero said:
ijahdan said:
Not being funny, but how about snorting it?
The monomescaline citrate might be too acidic for that to be comfortable or even advisable. It would be better to use a more neutral salt. Loveall's recent production of a 2:1 mescaline malate seems interesting in that respect.

The mescaline malate has all been converted to benzoate for future e-juice vaping steps but could be made again.
 
Loveall said:
downwardsfromzero said:
ijahdan said:
Not being funny, but how about snorting it?
The monomescaline citrate might be too acidic for that to be comfortable or even advisable. It would be better to use a more neutral salt. Loveall's recent production of a 2:1 mescaline malate seems interesting in that respect.

The mescaline malate has all been converted to benzoate for future e-juice vaping steps but could be made again.
It's OK, I wasn't asking you specifically to be the guinea pig!

Malic acid is fairly easily obtained for use in brewing and as a food additive (E296).
 
Thanks guys, Ill check out the malate conversion and try it for nasal experiment purposes next time I do a CIELO tek.
 
After recently sending off a sample for testing I found out I had accidentally mislabeled or swapped the samples with mescaline citrate at some stage. I definitely can confirm myself and a friend had one session smoking mescaline citrate thinking it was bufo. Regardless both of us did get some effects after having a few goes of it with the genie. Can report no irritation but this is obviously anecdotal I can't confirm I was not inhaling toxic byproducts. But it was smooth as smooth no irritation or coughing.
 
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