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Smoking when sad
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Its too complicated to generalize much about this sort of thing IMO. It could go either way since countless factors come into play.. I've had it help me a LOT in the past, but I wasn't just using it passively as a cure for my sadness. I was using it as a tool to help me help myself get to the heart of the problem/emotion and transform/understand it. Other times, i didn't have such luck
If this is what you decide to do, just be cautious and gentle with yourself. A good way i've found for this kind of work is to just smoke low or medium doses of changa during yoga, meditation, or contemplation. It can be very recalibrating and healing..for me its often like a 180. Or just jump right into the aether if that's how you feel. I would go with the flow, but be mindful
The short duration of changa also helps avoid the turmoil or snowball affect that can ensue when taking a longer lasting psychedelic in a sad state of mind
If this is what you decide to do, just be cautious and gentle with yourself. A good way i've found for this kind of work is to just smoke low or medium doses of changa during yoga, meditation, or contemplation. It can be very recalibrating and healing..for me its often like a 180. Or just jump right into the aether if that's how you feel. I would go with the flow, but be mindful
The short duration of changa also helps avoid the turmoil or snowball affect that can ensue when taking a longer lasting psychedelic in a sad state of mind
hug46
Esteemed member
Yes i have done it when sad. The only way it has affected my experience is that i get less pre-flight anxiety. I just think sod it and get on with it.
The last time i did it while sad i was outside and there was a pinkish aura everywhere, which i took to be comforting. I find the contemplative afterglow very therapeutic and for a few days afterwards i feel less sad.
This has been with doses no greater than 20mg and each time i go in expecting nothing.
The last time i did it while sad i was outside and there was a pinkish aura everywhere, which i took to be comforting. I find the contemplative afterglow very therapeutic and for a few days afterwards i feel less sad.
This has been with doses no greater than 20mg and each time i go in expecting nothing.
Changafarian
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Dmt Has a great afterglow and always leaves a mark of happiness/hope/contentness afterwords but i will agree at keeping it at low dose further its a pretty cool idea to me
changalvia
eat your jungle oats
Its not guaranteed to make you feel any specific way.
Just as you can be in a good mood and blast off to find yourself depressed, you can find yourself blasting off in a bad mood to come back refreshed... or even worse.
Its up to you directly, no matter how indirectly it seems
Sometimes i would purposefully smoke Salvia when angry / depressed or agitated.
that for me works.
And then I found out it actually has something to do with resetting certain brain stuff for lack of scientific terms
Just a quick search, you may or may not find this interesting:
Just as you can be in a good mood and blast off to find yourself depressed, you can find yourself blasting off in a bad mood to come back refreshed... or even worse.
Its up to you directly, no matter how indirectly it seems
Sometimes i would purposefully smoke Salvia when angry / depressed or agitated.
that for me works.
And then I found out it actually has something to do with resetting certain brain stuff for lack of scientific terms
Just a quick search, you may or may not find this interesting:
In terms of effects, what are y'all referring to as low doses? At just above threshold, dmt gives me a horrible anxiety,ugh,i hate it, and if I'm in a bad mid, amplifies it considerably, for writ quite awhile after i dose.
Oh,i don't even like thinking about that feeling. Shudders.
Oh,i don't even like thinking about that feeling. Shudders.
hug46
Esteemed member
changalvia said:
Agreed, and the fact that i have done this on occasion is not a recomendation to anyone else. I have done it because at the time it felt like the right thing to do and so far i have had positive results.
Null , as far as effects go - minor CEV doses upto reasonably intense OEVs. If you are shuddering at the idea i"d give it a miss. Or if you are into it, but a little worried, go up in 5mg doses.
changalvia
eat your jungle oats
Yea. If you have smoked spice before I wouldn't go any lower than 25mg at once, you need to choose where you wanna be. Don't try be 2 places at once, if its not meant to be you will just have minimal effects which can be quite odd
Smoke salvia from a small pipe until you are fully dissociated
Go big or go home!
Smoke salvia from a small pipe until you are fully dissociated
Go big or go home!
The general rule is that dmt will probably intensity, or even perhaps compound beyond comprehension, whatever feelings you may be having, but that is not always the case. There have been times when I have been feeling sad, and the spice revealed something surprisingly good, and then I felt better. Or there have been times when I thought I felt really good, and was expecting a a good trip, but it brought me down and left me thinking, "damn why did I do that?". But that is usually not the case.
There have been times when I smoked spice when I was feeling really bad, and I experienced being murdered over and over again, replaying scenes in my head of people I have seen murdered (on the internet), and thought I was the person being murdered. There's a video on the net of a guy in a suit in a meeting shoots himself in the head, and all his blood pours out his nose. In the trip, I had no idea if I was that guy, or if I was someone else. I thought, "either I'm the guy who killed himself, and I'll never wake up from this, or I smoked spice and I'm disoriented". After a few minutes I was thankful to realize that I just smoked spice.
Or, I have flashback experiences from my own life except they take on a freakish, other worldly quality. One time when I was really sad about being rejected by a girl I love, I smoked spice that night, and experienced being sucked in to a black hole, and swirling all around me was her spirit laughing at me and telling me that I will never be loved, that I gave up my soul trying to court her, and she consumed it, and there is nothing left to my existence except her laughing at me and lording it over me that I am nothing.
Other times I'm not feeling very well, and the spice like resets my brain or something, and I'm like.... death? whatever. Everything is fine. My oh my this drug will cause one to experience every emotion on the map and beyond. I do notice that trips are not the same as when I first started taking it. Before the themes were almost always other worldly, but now trips often become very emotional and relate to my personal life. Maybe I should stop taking l-dopa, I don't know if the increased dopamine has a fucked up effect with psychedelics.
There have been times when I smoked spice when I was feeling really bad, and I experienced being murdered over and over again, replaying scenes in my head of people I have seen murdered (on the internet), and thought I was the person being murdered. There's a video on the net of a guy in a suit in a meeting shoots himself in the head, and all his blood pours out his nose. In the trip, I had no idea if I was that guy, or if I was someone else. I thought, "either I'm the guy who killed himself, and I'll never wake up from this, or I smoked spice and I'm disoriented". After a few minutes I was thankful to realize that I just smoked spice.
Or, I have flashback experiences from my own life except they take on a freakish, other worldly quality. One time when I was really sad about being rejected by a girl I love, I smoked spice that night, and experienced being sucked in to a black hole, and swirling all around me was her spirit laughing at me and telling me that I will never be loved, that I gave up my soul trying to court her, and she consumed it, and there is nothing left to my existence except her laughing at me and lording it over me that I am nothing.
Other times I'm not feeling very well, and the spice like resets my brain or something, and I'm like.... death? whatever. Everything is fine. My oh my this drug will cause one to experience every emotion on the map and beyond. I do notice that trips are not the same as when I first started taking it. Before the themes were almost always other worldly, but now trips often become very emotional and relate to my personal life. Maybe I should stop taking l-dopa, I don't know if the increased dopamine has a fucked up effect with psychedelics.
I have done it under many kinds of moods. the best is when your already feeling good.
when in a sad mood i recommend starting with some caapi leaf to elevate your mood first.
there are no hard n fast rules from my own experience , the best thing i can say is if your in a questionable mood don't go full on . test the waters gradually feel if its going to be ok or not.
when in a sad mood i recommend starting with some caapi leaf to elevate your mood first.
there are no hard n fast rules from my own experience , the best thing i can say is if your in a questionable mood don't go full on . test the waters gradually feel if its going to be ok or not.
Elpo
Rising Star
Thanks a lot for your responses everyone. I ended up not trying and decided to postpone. I did however try Salvia a few days later which ended up lifting my mood as I had this very powerful crazy laughing frenzy. It felt as if the laughing came from the deeperst region of my being.
DisEmboDied
Rising Star
Usually I am not sad anymore after the experience is over with. It knocks all of the negative emotions out of me. Once I am in hyperspace, what is making me sad usually becomes irrelevant. If I do think about it while I'm there, the shaman from wherever guides me an answer sometimes...lately I have been going in with intention and getting some sort of answer or response, it is the way I go to church at least once every 2 weeks or a month. Peace
Nathaniel
Nathaniel
I have done this a few times and it can vary quite a bit. It can go either way, but I think I concluded that it's best to be in a content state of mind when getting in touch with the spirits. Mainly because I think it tends to create focus on whatever you're feeling/thinking about, so it might just exacerbate the situation. I like to do DMT with positivity :thumb_up:
