snorting dmt dissolved in vinegar/water solution

[concombres]

I have been toying with the idea of snorting dmt. The freebase seems incredibly painful & i all i have to convert it to a salt is vinegar. Being that dmt acetate is a goo, i figured maybe taking a solution of 1ml vinegar & 1.5ml water & then dissolving freebase spice until it reaches saturation would be an effective way to administer spice nasally with less burn. So far, i've got -150mg dissolved in solution & snorted a little with a straw. Burns pretty bad but i've snorted worse. Not exactly sure i got much in my system, but i do feel an extremely mild change in perception 5minutes later.
I plan to saturate the solution fully & try again later.

 

[3rdI]

if you want to stick the magic up your nose i would suggest you look into hyperspace fools coco tek

other wise do a search for snorting and there is plenty of info.

enjoy:thumb_up:

 

[concombres]

I actually just read that post before i mixed the solution up. as of now, finding a nasal spray container & making the solution saturated enough to deliver a strong dose in less than a single ml of liquid is the only problem i've run into.
:lol:

Really im just looking for a roa that doesnt involve smokimg or maoi's, my smoking devices are not as effecient as i'd like & i have no harmalas on hand.
Normally snorting would be out of the question.

 

[3rdI]

with snorting id go coco tek, but i dont use that ROA so m not to well versed.

cant you just make a machine? it vapes very efficiently and is smooth as you like.

 

[concombres]

I'm just being lazy really. I have a bong dedicated to spice, just don't want to go out & get copper mesh to smoke.

Do you happen to know the purpose of the coconut cream in the tek?
It just seems like it's being used as a ph buffer, or thickening agent to me, in which case it could likely be substituted with another similar substance laying around.
However, id hate to screw up a spice saturated solution.

 

[3rdI]

i think the coconut is to increase the smoothness of the substance entering the nose, as far as i can gather people say it stops the burn.

is it the mesh that you dont like or the walk to the shop? i can sympathise either way:lol:

 

[concombres]

It's a combination of walking to the shop & the dirty looks you get when buying mesh. I live in a bad area & the clerks seem to associate buying mesh with crack use. They always make an attempt to sell me glass roses w/ the mesh & it's very offensive:thumb_dow

 

[3rdI]

well id say bobins to those people, if someone looked down at me for bying a pan scrubber i think it would say more about them than me. but i understand why you wouldnt like it.

have you seen the ceramic disks? they can be used in a very similar way.

 

[concombres]

I've been contemplating getting a ceramic flavor disk or 2. I have a gvg on the way but i read into the thread about that a bit & it looks like the disks don't fit the newer model quite as well as theh did the old one :/
I think the chore boy disks are my best bet atm.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

I tried the flavor disk with my VG. I liked it alright. I liked the Volcano wet pad better than the flavor disk, though.

The I've only bought the mesh scrubber from the grocery store - no strange looks.

 

[concombres]

I've seen a few reccomendations for the volcano wet pad. When i get my gvg after i get a propper technique down ill try the wet pad, flavor disk, & mesh & then compare.
On a side note,
I think its pretty safe to say ill NEVER snort spice again. The first time the solution wasn't fully saturated. Upon further saturation & a second attempt the burn was so terrible it brought on panic when the effects started & tainted the entire experience.

 

[3rdI]

it will be tricky to get GVG technique down properly if you dont get one of those 3 add ons since screens tend to leak to much.

 

[concombres]

Ya i caught that right after i posted. One of the methods above will have to be first. Probably the mesh. From there, once i'm able to breakthrough on 20mg, ill try with other options so i have something to compare to.

 

[jamie]

the acetate burn exceeded that of freebase for me. Freebase might be more active for that route as well.

It's worth exploring. When you do it properly, snuffing DMT can be an ideal experience. It is better with beta-carbolines.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

We just suck it up and deal with the burn of FB. dmt fumarate would be ideal, but I don't know where to locally source the acid, and I don't like ordering too much online

 

[concombres]

The duration, slower comeup, & ease of use without having to fidgit with a bong is deffinately nice. I dont even mind the higher dosages needed.
But the burn was just far too terrible for me to deal with. If i could mix a snuff that efficently got rid of the burn, i'd use this roa often.
After that initial try i'm afraid of the possibility of mixing snuff wrong & still feeling the burn.

 

[HippingTrippY]

Lemon juice probably works as well as vinegar, and surprisingly cool aide the powder sigle pitcher size works at least for folks injecting crack. I read a book. Perhaps the really adventurous explorer would use the glass turkey baster and use the enema route. 1,2,3 NOT IT!




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[Purges]

Out of interest, does anybody know the dosage range for anal administration? I have heard the neurosoup girl did it, don't think she went into dosage.

Have also heard of analhuasca, I imagine you would work quite a heavily reduced brew :roll:

 

[3rdI]

Have also heard of analhuasca,

best ....huasca so far:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Purges]

Have also heard of analhuasca,

best ....huasca so far:lol: :lol: :lol:

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