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I, for one, would be very interested to hear SpanishFly's soil mix recipe. I am relatively new to growing cacti, but I love finding new ways that I can spoil my babies! :love:
 
Spanishfly said

I have used ground up eggshells when my usual crushed marble has not been to hand - all these things are basically calcium carbonate, or lime. My standard mix for Mexican desert cacti is 2 measures loam, 1 measure wormcasts, 5 measures sand/grit and 2 measures lime.
 
Entheogenerator said:
I, for one, would be very interested to hear SpanishFly's soil mix recipe. I am relatively new to growing cacti, but I love finding new ways that I can spoil my babies! :love:
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Entheo, there are probably as many soil mixes as there are growers - but for those who have asked here is mine for Mexican desert cacti -
I use the same mix for peyote and all my limestone-loving Mexican desert cacti - I just sieve it a bit finer for sowing seeds.

2 measures loam
1 measure wormcasts
5 measures coarse sand/grit
2 measures crushed marble

Gives a well draining alkali soil with a little nutrition, which is similar to what many desert cacti grow in.

Substitute for what you can´t get - if wormcasts are a problem use bat guano (if you are rich) or rotted horse manure (if you are poor). I can buy huge bags of marble chips which I crush up coarsely - I would use dolomite lime if I could get it. Otherwise crushed sea shells or egg shells - all are calcium carbonate.
Good luck
Regards
Fly
 
Spanishfly said:
Entheo, there are probably as many soil mixes as there are growers - but for those who have asked here is mine for Mexican desert cacti -
I use the same mix for peyote and all my limestone-loving Mexican desert cacti - I just sieve it a bit finer for sowing seeds.

2 measures loam
1 measure wormcasts
5 measures coarse sand/grit
2 measures crushed marble

Gives a well draining alkali soil with a little nutrition, which is similar to what many desert cacti grow in.

Substitute for what you can´t get - if wormcasts are a problem use bat guano (if you are rich) or rotted horse manure (if you are poor). I can buy huge bags of marble chips which I crush up coarsely - I would use dolomite lime if I could get it. Otherwise crushed sea shells or egg shells - all are calcium carbonate.
Good luck
Regards
Fly
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Thanks! I am aware that everyone pretty much develops their own mixes and whatnot, but I'm always curious to hear other people's ideas and methods. I've been using a mix of 7 parts perlite, 4 parts potting soil, 2 parts coco coir, and 1 part worm castings. I use this mix for all of my cacti, most of which are Lophophora or Trichocereus species. I don't hear them complaining, so I guess it must be satisfactory!

I have a bunch of calcium carbonate that I have considered expirementing with, but I worry about adding too much and damaging my plants. The fertilizer I use for my Lophophoras also supplies a decent amount of calcium, and they seem healthy. As they say in the south, "Why fix it if it ain't broke?" 😁
 
Entheogenerator said:
I have a bunch of calcium carbonate that I have considered expirementing with, but I worry about adding too much and damaging my plants. The fertilizer I use for my Lophophoras also supplies a decent amount of calcium, and they seem healthy. As they say in the south, "Why fix it if it ain't broke?" 😁
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I don´t think you will give too much - in the pic there is a Epithelantha micromeris and another (?) growing in almost 100% limestone in their Mexican habitat..
 

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So I have kind of a goofy question.... how do you crush your marble exactly? I got a bag of marble at the garden store but they are rather sizable stones for a small pot and even bashing them with a hammer did barely anything to break them.

I eventually got some smaller pieces to use but it still makes it difficult when measuring ratios and whatnot.
 
When i crush stone, lava rock i use a big hammer. I do this in the concrete. I dont know how spanish does it. But be sure to use goggles and gloves. Its a heave thick looking hammer.
 
I was hitting the stones with a mallet on concrete but then I decided to stop so I wouldn't crack the concrete. I tried it in the grass but it didn't work so well. I didn't know it would be so hard to even chip these stones! It's a violent procedure.
 
I tried mixing spanishfly's soil mix but I got all wrong ingredients or something it ended up being a really weird mixture that took several hours to drain and turned into cement. I realized that i was using bad ingredients. The limestone I could get around here was in balls that turned into a mud real quick, couldn't find loam anywhere so I used topsoil, and it didn't end up being a good consistency. I ended up giving up on finding limestone or marble (that wasn't in giant rock or mushy ball form) and now I just use a mix of pumice/decomposed granite chunks/sand/coir/worm castings. Drains super fast but holds water for a day or two and is vary aerated. Spanishfly's mix obviously works extremely well for him though.

Where do you get your loam and limestone spanishfly?
 
Loam is topsoil - I go and dig some up.

A local garden centre sells big bags of marble chippings - they break up real easy for me - marble is not a hard rock - I am surprised you were having problems. Sure it is marble??
I find lava rock, that I break up to make coarse, porous grit, to be somewhat harder to crush than marble.

I put a handful in a plastic bag and bash them with a hammer - I get a range of sizes, from coarse sand to lentil-sized pebbles, which I like.

Lime is basically calcium carbonate - alternatives are crushed sea shells or even egg shells.
 
Chaquah said:
Hi Spanishfly,

Beautiful plants you are growing there.

I try to grow Peyotes but i dont get them past one or two years after which they always seem to get this hard outer skin.

See here: Peyote gets hard skin - Cultivation - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Do you think this could be a soil issue ? Or do you think it might be sth else ?

Thanks !
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I concur with what many folks have already told you on that link - looks like red spider mite. Get some specific insecticide.
 
Yea I got marble but they are the kind of stones for landscaping I think. This is why I don't like asking people in the store to help me because they never seem to know what I am talking about. I went to this huge garden center and they didn't have wormcastings, lime, or coarse sand.... or so they told me :?:

edit: It does actually say "marble chips" on the bag but they are for landscaping. They are rather large for a small lopho pot and I was railing on them with a hammer to no avail. I might try to crush them again or I might just go to the store for something else. It was only $5 thankfully
 
Spanishfly said:
I concur with what many folks have already told you on that link - looks like red spider mite. Get some specific insecticide.
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Ok thanks, i will give that another try, as i have allready.

Should spider mite be visible ? Im pretty sure there are no tiny bugs strolling around on the cactii, ive even checked by photographing the plant from all angles and blowing up the photos to enormous size.
 
I have the same scaling on some of the peyote's I picket up at the local gardening center. They are flowering and producing seeds. I have checked with a lens and can't seem to find Anny bug on there as well. maybee its something else, like over watering?

So far a big mystery:( I have put them in another room to make sure they don't contam the other cacti
 
I think it has to do with my soil. I initially gave my peyotes the same soil als my san pedros, so they have way too much nutrients and way too little lime. So i have followed Spanish flies soil mix and will now wait to see if they recover.

I used crushed see shells for lime.
 
hostilis said:
I tried mixing spanishfly's soil mix but I got all wrong ingredients or something it ended up being a really weird mixture that took several hours to drain and turned into cement.
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Sounds like your ingredients were TOO fine and dusty. Mud is basically wet dust, and mud can become a hard substance when dried - as in mud huts. I try to keep the sand, grit and limestone - which is 70% of the mix - relatively coarse, with a range of particle sizes - so roots penetrate easily and it drains well.
 
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