something to experiment with. meditative help?

[nabster98]

alright so yesterday swim got ahold of some K2. this stuff is strong and last not was tried out of a gravity bong. Along with this i added passion flower and experienced something amazing. Warning:this trip is very intense and may cause panic or anxiety for the less experienced. swim couldnt stand watching tv, playing guitar as usual, but realized the flowing and naturality of his thoughts. I literally proved that all humans are connected on some subconcious level and can be accessed. I of course forgot the proof but i hope others will believe me. With these thoughts on hand i tried meditating, i am currently level 3 jhana and have praticed occasionally with insightive meditation. Im telling you, this mix has some real power. I could literally slow my heart beat down as much as i wanted which i believe to be dangerous, also with meditation i found it easier to find my natural state of concentration and it came much more quickly.

I warn all to try this with caution, but i feel it has some real uses which others should try out.

 

[Mindlusion]

Yes. The passion flower synergy with bud is really something else. I when I do it, I smoke about 4 big bowls of passionflower, in a row, out of my bong and about an hour later, I will smoke as many big bowls of bud as I can before it hits me.

I found I could also control my heart rate. I entered a "system" and I could control my blood flow.
Did you feel a rhythmic wave that flows through your tongue and out your mouth? It happens to me a lot.

Truly amazing what the passion flower can help you achieve. You never would have thought the places it brings you.

I do agree it can be overwhelming. It hits you very fast and sometimes it feels like you are stuck in a loop.

 

[shoe]

Im all for the power of meditation + consiousness expanding drugs, but what the heck is a 'level 3 jhana' and why should a rank like that matter at all to you?

 

[ragabr]

Description of the 3rd Jhana. It's not a rank, it's a meaningful phenomenological description, useful for carrying on coherent conversations between practitioners.

 

[Samadhi-Sukha-Upekkha]

Yes, that's actually quite useful. It details the mode in which attention is operating and the dominant "mindfeel" of the experience.

Low doses of cannabis are helpful for jhana, I've found, but high doses tend to interfere too strongly with the ability to mindfully concentrate.

 

[nabster98]

yes, concentration is a hard thing, with all of the ego surrounding us and the small thoughts over our own mind. And yes jhana is no rank, more of a step through a journey that gives a sort of background on your practice.

Marijuana can be quite useful in this practice but depending on where one is trying to get to it can become more of a hassle.

 

[wade]

I love the JWH synthetic cannabinoids and achieve great psychedelic insight every time I vape them. How economical! to each their own

edit: i believe the k2 that people sell is a mixture of JWH variations

try the pure isolated molecules themselves, but beware of potency. 1mg is very active