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Something to replace caffeine and cigarettes
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If you're trying to quit nicotine I recommend tabex. Super easy to order online and works great for getting through the first month of withdrawals and cravings. I have it shipped straight to my door and it's relatively cheap.
Nothing can really replace nicotine I've found with my many quitting attempts
Nothing can really replace nicotine I've found with my many quitting attempts
Medicinal herbs.
What kind of herb is it?
Quit nicotine a few years back. I smoked a pipe and cigars, so less lung issues but more nicotine imbibed (so more heart issues, etc.) I still miss it but only once in a while. Cravings diminish over a year and then they are very occasional. Manageable. I feel better in general and I know it.
We just had a very bad bug, we think it was the Noravirus. Couldn't even think of coffee and had bad headaches from withdrawal on top of the 3 day vomiting and diarrhea. When it was over, I cut my caffeine intake in half.
I've drunk coffee since I was 12 years old. Pushing 70 now. I miss it pretty bad, I'm not the zippy comedian I once was, mile a minute all morning.
However, I have a more sustained, calm, alertness all day. If I had a bad night's sleep, I can take a nap more readily and salvage the rest of my day.
Focus on the lower level energy you have which is more sustained and dependable. Less peaks and valleys.
When I really crave that second cup badly and maybe have work to do, I've used individually either Ginseng, sublingual B12, or low dose harmala. Never more than one day in a row for any of those although the harmalas would likely not be an issue in that regard.
Caffeine keeps you up at night only if you consume it too late. As a general rule, I try to not consume any caffeine in the 12 hours before I try to sleep. And in terms of what I consume that contains caffeine, that would be yerba mate. It stimulates the GLP-1 pathway and it provides plenty of hydration along with the caffeine to wake me up nicely.
Guayusa felt like a healthier alternative to coffee for me. Maté probably would be similar as it is a relative. And local holly species also worked for me. Holly, guayusa, and mate are all in the same genus: İlex.
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If you enjoy the experiences of these respective plants but would like to mitigate some of the downsides:
Just drink the coffee in the AM, and consume your nicotine in a healthy way (organic leaf smoke/quid/(mild!!)tea)
Keep the coffee at a lower dose like 1 cup or double espresso max, since your nervous system adapts faster and further to the stimulus, than your liver adapts to metabolism, leading to a numbed out supersaturation if you consume too much. With coffee as a result, less is more.
For the nicotine try to exercise, or expose yourself to sweating so that your peripheral vasculature can breathe, heal, and rejuvenate (nicotine constricts peripheral vasculature which dramatically reduces healing and regeneration). If you live in a tropical climate and are physically active, that should be enough. Otherwise, Set aside time to sweat every day, and similarly to coffee's 12pm stop, try not to consume it past 3pm or, to facilitate better sleep, and keep it in lower more gentle dosing for the same super-saturation vs metabolism reasons (don't take isolate patches/gums for instance).
With these accommodations in place, you can more fully enjoy your caffeine and nicotine without the side effects of a loss in sleep quality (from consuming caffeine after 12pm), or chronically hypo perfused peripheral vasculature (from the nicotine).
If you are looking for more energy/motivation/focus as a whole however, I would personally advise against stimulants as they reduce the capacity for our minds to produce dynamic and sharp responses ~ both while on them, and off them!
For energy motivation focus etc, it is better to be sober of habitual stimulant use (of all types), get good sleep, eat a clear diet, exercise regularly, and if you have the guts for some adrenaline, take cold showers in the morning for an endogenous adrenaline response and improved vasovagal tone which can help your thinking.
Talking about all this coffee is making me want a latte
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