Fasting and the carnivore diet

[SkunK]

It usually takes around two days of fasting to clear all sugar reserves in the body. You will start to slowly slide into ketosis even before, but after two days, I feel a clear shift in energy and clarity.

Carnivore diet is a basic healing protocol where you ingest only one type of food. It is a good practice to cleanse your system and eliminate any potential irritants.
However, you need to eat some clean meat, or it will create more problems than solutions. Hardly any people nowadays have access to good-quality meat, though.

The same reasoning applies to vegans and vegetarians. Eating factory vegetables will not make you healthy. Here in the North, we have no access to greens, and everything sold in the store is filled with pesticides and fungicides. You can even read it on the big box they come in. The same applies to fruits. So when I read about all these fine protocols, it makes me question how far they have researched.

Further, just being able to think about diet nowadays is a grace. I remember my childhood and an empty fridge. Fasting was an everyday practice whether you wanted it or not. If you have some extra money from your practice, consider finding a good, legitimate cause and donating a bit. It is good karma and will come back your way someday.

Being in the Great White North as I believe you are from reading some of your posts, I'm assuming your a little north of me, the Carnivore diet would suit you nicely! If your a go gette one can fill a freezer with lean wild meat in one hunting season.

I was lucky enough to fold 4 tags back in 2022 b4 my life went to shit, and filled 2 freezers, and myself aline was able to stretch it out for 2.5 years.

I'm also lucky being south western Canada (but land locked) to be able to grow greens and lots of berry's if one puts the works in.

IIt's crasy how much shit theu put on our foods now a days, from pesticides on fresh greens to hormones pimped into our meats.

That's why I love hunting for wild game and processing it myself from field to table.

 

[northape]

Being in the Great White North as I believe you are from reading some of your posts, I'm assuming your a little north of me, the Carnivore diet would suit you nicely! If your a go gette one can fill a freezer with lean wild meat in one hunting season.

I was lucky enough to fold 4 tags back in 2022 b4 my life went to shit, and filled 2 freezers, and myself aline was able to stretch it out for 2.5 years.

I'm also lucky being south western Canada (but land locked) to be able to grow greens and lots of berry's if one puts the works in.

IIt's crasy how much shit theu put on our foods now a days, from pesticides on fresh greens to hormones pimped into our meats.

That's why I love hunting for wild game and processing it myself from field to table.

Here in Scandinavia, hunting is extremely controlled and costs a fortune. You need to take a course to get your license, buy guns, and purchase a special storage locker for them. Furthermore, from what I know, you cannot do it alone; it is a team effort all the time. It is a rich man's hobby, or at least for the upper-middle class. All we can do is buy wild game or meat from deer farms. It is still a much better deal than the factory-farmed abomination from the store that costs the same or even more. The Old World has become extremely strict and controlled. This might be a good thing for city people who think that food comes from a supermarket, but it is a prison for a wild soul. Sadly, I am still finding my way out of here due to a lack of courage and an elderly mother I need to look after. However, I do not plan to die here. I will move somewhere wild, even if it is the last thing I do in this life.

Thank you for your hearty reply. May all be well

 

[SkunK]

Here in Scandinavia, hunting is extremely controlled and costs a fortune. You need to take a course to get your license, buy guns, and purchase a special storage locker for them. Furthermore, from what I know, you cannot do it alone; it is a team effort all the time. It is a rich man's hobby, or at least for the upper-middle class. All we can do is buy wild game or meat from deer farms. It is still a much better deal than the factory-farmed abomination from the store that costs the same or even more. The Old World has become extremely strict and controlled. This might be a good thing for city people who think that food comes from a supermarket, but it is a prison for a wild soul. Sadly, I am still finding my way out of here due to a lack of courage and an elderly mother I need to look after. However, I do not plan to die here. I will move somewhere wild, even if it is the last thing I do in this life.

Thank you for your hearty reply. May all be well

my apologies I was under dgw assumption you were northern Canada, my bad. Was hunting here is pretty open, and a real go getter with some solid animal knowledgeable can hunt most game on general tags, bit those rags usually are for heavy hit area and the animals are pretty savy, one can collect points for draws where you can hunt different areas with better success odds.

Archery hunting one gets more opportunities but its harder to harvest obviously and one needs more skillse

That's crazy how they limit and make a person jump through
So many hoops where you're from, doesn't sound like a fun endeavor. Seems more of a hassle.

I'm pretty lucky up here then we have some good land to hunt, slot more freedoms (although they sre trying to take me away). A tag up her is roughly $40 per animal give or take, 1 elk, 1 moose, 1 of each mule and white tail deer, and usually you cam get an extra supplemental white tail for certain areas, 1 black bear, can also hunt sheep and rams but those are tough hard hunts and not for the faint of heart, a separate license for upland birds. You won't alwsy fill all your tags but you get the opportunity to try.

Those are all free ranged wild animals.

I do apologize I thought you were northern Canada from reading some of your posts.


Are your deer farms grain feed? We have elk farms and they are grain fed to beef them up and flipping expensive.

 

[Jamie01]

I used to to eat a lot of moose. My grandfather lived up in the caribou and pretty much liked only 3 things…hunting, fishing and drinking like a fish. We always had a lot of meat in the freezer, sausage, jerky etc as a kid. I never learned to hunt and regret it. It’s too easy to put on a snorkel and grab a crab though.

 

[northape]

I do apologize I thought you were northern Canada from reading some of your posts.

There is no need to apologize; it is an understandable conclusion. I hear that hunting is more prevalent in Finland, but here it is mostly something for locals to do. Being an immigrant simply creates fewer opportunities and more challenges for me. If we had a situation similar to Canada, I would consider hunting a good career choice. Meat is quite costly here, so I would most likely be able to live off hunting.

Are your deer farms grain feed? We have elk farms and they are grain fed to beef them up and flipping expensive.

We have a good environment for raising deer. Local farmers simply fence off a part of the forest, and the deer feed themselves for half of the year. In winter, they supplement this with grass feed, so it is very clean meat. Only because locals are brainwashed to buy from supermarkets do we have a situation where this produce is affordable. For example, we buy liver and heart when locals just throw them away; organs are actually the cheapest to buy. Europe is slowly moving toward higher control over food chains, but nothing is going to change very fast here.

Hunting is a privilege nowadays. I would advise more people to try it if their situation allows. At least buy from hunters and let this fantastic craft live on.

 

[EmeraldAtomiser]

If you are eating a lot of game, which is, as you say, very lean, where are you getting your fat from?
I went and saw my sister's family yesterday, and she checked my ketone level (she's a nurse and has all the kit). I was 0.7mmol/l, so definitely in ketosis, as we would expect after 10 days with zero carbs.
The only unpleasant effects so far are totally liquid bowel movements. This morning seems somewhat better, so I'm hoping that will start to clear, as it is very unpleasant. Like having done a salt water flush before every movement!
I've had no massive cravings, but I am already not really looking forward to eating. My palate is not enjoying being slathered with fat all the time, with nothing to cut it, or bring any other flavours to the table.
I've not weighed myself, but am definitely losing weight, which I do not need to do, although seeing as I have very little surface fat, my belt being loose must mean it was visceral that's been used, so that's a positive.
I feel like this will be a good reset, it has given me motivation to stay completely sober, and seeing as I will be ultra-lean, with hopefully more testosterone, it'll give me a good platform to get back to my yoga practice and start building muscle and strength again.
I'm going to see how I feel after 2 weeks, and then maybe switch to a keto diet, the variety of which, I think, should make it a bit easier for me to continue with.
how my Latvian friend followed the carnivore for 2 years I will never know!

 

[northape]

If you are eating a lot of game, which is, as you say, very lean, where are you getting your fat from?

Nordic countries are traditionally excellent with dairy products. Butter has become expensive, but we still buy it, and I use it to make ghee. We have many varieties of cheese somewhat similar to the situation in France. We buy wild boar meat occasionally, and it has a good amount of fat in it too.

The only unpleasant effects so far are totally liquid bowel movements.

You can read up on it, but basically, your microbiome needs some time to adapt to a new diet. Bacteria that live off meat require time to colonize your colon.

I feel like this will be a good reset, it has given me motivation to stay completely sober, and seeing as I will be ultra-lean, with hopefully more testosterone, it'll give me a good platform to get back to my yoga practice and start building muscle and strength again.

I get very horny from eating wild meat, something that never occurred with factory-farmed meats. I would guess it correlates to testosterone levels. The same happened when we still had our chickens and I ate rooster meat

 

[SkunK]

I used to to eat a lot of moose. My grandfather lived up in the caribou and pretty much liked only 3 things…hunting, fishing and drinking like a fish. We always had a lot of meat in the freezer, sausage, jerky etc as a kid. I never learned to hunt and regret it. It’s too easy to put on a snorkel and grab a crab though.

Moose is one of my favorites and one of the hardest to hunt. A lot of work to get and Pack pit of the field
They always hesd to the darkest, wettest most vegetation tangled place they can when shot and where fall is where you break em down and solo you ain't moving them!

I was never raised in a hunting family, I thought my self in my late 30s one of my favorite past times now And a great way to tskr from from field to table. Really good lesn mest, and one gets very intimate with their food, you know their last meal, and how the animal was harvested , handled and processed.

I used to like drinking now I just enjoy brewing alcohol and distilling White Lightning. Don't drink heavily anymore I drink rarely but enjoy some quality hooch.

Love fishing and definitely spearfishing and snorkeling but only fresh water never had the opportunity to dive for crabs

Funny thing is I won't eat fish, I was traumatized as a young 6 year old at a friend's house at a sleep over, where their family had fish head soup, I could never get over that as a young kid and it carried into my adult hood , All my speared fish gets fed to the dogs.

 

[SkunK]

@EmeraldAtomiser

I eat a lot of wild lean meat and late season Black Bear provides a lot of really nice fat, especially if they have been hitting the Berry bushes b4 Denning up. The berry's flavor the fat of the besr to an extent

In the years I fail to fold a black bear tag, I'll hit up the hutterites to get some pork fat to cut into my sausage and ground meat. The hitterites have free ranged animals thst are not grain fed and pumped full of hormones.
 

 

[SkunK]

There is no need to apologize; it is an understandable conclusion. I hear that hunting is more prevalent in Finland, but here it is mostly something for locals to do. Being an immigrant simply creates fewer opportunities and more challenges for me. If we had a situation similar to Canada, I would consider hunting a good career choice. Meat is quite costly here, so I would most likely be able to live off hunting.

We have a good environment for raising deer. Local farmers simply fence off a part of the forest, and the deer feed themselves for half of the year. In winter, they supplement this with grass feed, so it is very clean meat. Only because locals are brainwashed to buy from supermarkets do we have a situation where this produce is affordable. For example, we buy liver and heart when locals just throw them away; organs are actually the cheapest to buy. Europe is slowly moving toward higher control over food chains, but nothing is going to change very fast here.

Hunting is a privilege nowadays. I would advise more people to try it if their situation allows. At least buy from hunters and let this fantastic craft live on.

That's a shame, I think everyone should have the right to ethically feed them self, if done in a proper way to sustain the animal population. It's only cost effective if one decides to take their own game from field to table them self. Alot of hunters will shoot a deer ($40) plus Gas and time, then they pay a butcher to process their game ($300+) to make sausage and cuts and some places your not getting your animal they process a few at a time so your getting someone else harvest mixed in with yours and your not getting a lot of meat off a deer, I can pack out a boned our deer in my hunting pack so it's not alot of mest to be honest

The organs are some of the best meats, those are the 1st cuts I'm taking when gutting game, and the 1st to get consumed. Really good protein.

I think everyone should hunt once in their life smd see rhe full process of field to table, a lot of
people don't relize what or where your food comes from and how it gets to the supermarket , people are so disconnected from the whole process they wouldn't even know where the different cuts come from.

 

[northape]

I think everyone should hunt once in their life smd see rhe full process of field to table, a lot of
people don't relize what or where your food comes from and how it gets to the supermarket , people are so disconnected from the whole process they wouldn't even know where the different cuts come from.

I got a somewhat similar education from raising chickens. When you kill a life to eat it, something shifts in you forever

 

[SkunK]

I got a somewhat similar education from raising chickens. When you kill a life to eat it, something shifts in you forever

Moat definitely, definitely not something I enjoy doing as I am a huge animal lover, and respect and appreciate life, I feel hunting is more ethical than farm raised beef, as the animals have a better chance at survival and one has to put in work to harvest one, and they truly are In tune with there environment and their senses are far more intune amd superior then ours.

They die free In the wild a beautiful peaceful place not some cold concrete slaughter house floor stsined and stinking of blood where they obviously can smell and sense their final demise .

I don't think a lot if people know what happens on a slaughter house floor and how their food reaches them at the supermarket.

I'm not Against it, people have to eat and we have become far detached from the whole process, back in the primal days hunting and food was a very special place one where people came together around a fire and shared In the whole process in the pursuit of survival.

A lot of people now a days would starve if supermarkets ceased to stock fresh foods and meats.

I would love to raise chickens, but unfortunately its illegal here in my town, as is bee keeping. And I'd definitely have the peace officers knocking st my door!


I've beem tempted to break the law on the bee keeping and have dreams to start my own hive and feel I could possibly get away with that and the neighbors wouldn't complain or report me. One of my dreams i should follow through with one of these years or at least try haha.

 

[northape]

Moat definitely, definitely not something I enjoy doing as I am a huge animal lover, and respect and appreciate life, I feel hunting is more ethical than farm raised beef, as the animals have a better chance at survival and one has to put in work to harvest one, and they truly are In tune with there environment and their senses are far more intune amd superior then ours.

They die free In the wild a beautiful peaceful place not some cold concrete slaughter house floor stsined and stinking of blood where they obviously can smell and sense their final demise .

I don't think a lot if people know what happens on a slaughter house floor and how their food reaches them at the supermarket.

I'm not Against it, people have to eat and we have become far detached from the whole process, back in the primal days hunting and food was a very special place one where people came together around a fire and shared In the whole process in the pursuit of survival.

A lot of people now a days would starve if supermarkets ceased to stock fresh foods and meats.

I would love to raise chickens, but unfortunately its illegal here in my town, as is bee keeping. And I'd definitely have the peace officers knocking st my door!

I've beem tempted to break the law on the bee keeping and have dreams to start my own hive and feel I could possibly get away with that and the neighbors wouldn't complain or report me. One of my dreams i should follow through with one of these years or at least try haha.

The main narrative everywhere is to move away from sustainable living in favor of big factory farms. My uncle lives in Belarus and had close to 200 bee colonies at one point. The government rented nearby fields to a company from Iran, and they sprayed the hell out of them with a potent pesticide. More than 100 of his bee colonies died, and when he tried to make his case, he was threatened by the authorities instead. I do not know where this whole show is leading, but it does not feel right or just in any way. Doing what you can with what you have (or are allowed to have) would be my approach. Life is too short to dwell on the modern social situation.

 

[SkunK]

The main narrative everywhere is to move away from sustainable living in favor of big factory farms. My uncle lives in Belarus and had close to 200 bee colonies at one point. The government rented nearby fields to a company from Iran, and they sprayed the hell out of them with a potent pesticide. More than 100 of his bee colonies died, and when he tried to make his case, he was threatened by the authorities instead. I do not know where this whole show is leading, but it does not feel right or just in any way. Doing what you can with what you have (or are allowed to have) would be my approach. Life is too short to dwell on the modern social situation.

Thats the worst thing people can do, that he more self sufficient one is the more the powers to be are worried.

I've noticed a huge decline in the bee population over the years around here as well, town spraying fields and parks etc. One of the reasons I'd like to get a hive going around here. People don't realize how important they are to our food production and survival.

 

[northape]

Thats the worst thing people can do, that he more self sufficient one is the more the powers to be are worried.

I've noticed a huge decline in the bee population over the years around here as well, town spraying fields and parks etc. One of the reasons I'd like to get a hive going around here. People don't realize how important they are to our food production and survival.

My uncle is a second-generation beekeeper in the family. He's been doing it for close to 50 years now and has never received a dime for all the pollination his bees are doing. It's like his practice is taken for granted and doesn't deserve state appreciation. The guy lives close to poverty and struggles to make ends meet. He's quite a smart one, though, and has lots of beehives in the forest now. I wonder if there are still places that actively welcome this kind of dedication and lifestyle?

 

[Jamie01]

This all just sounds typical of agriculture in general. No one cares and better yet if super low paid immigrants can do it.

 

[northape]

This all just sounds typical of agriculture in general. No one cares and better yet if super low paid immigrants can do it.

Sadly, that's my feeling too. I think there are still some small, isolated villages scattered here and there across the globe where old values hold - some mountainous places in the Andes, the Himalayas, or Turkey. It would take real legwork to find them, and then who knows how welcoming they would be to outsiders. That's my dream, though. I long for these places where a traditional lifestyle is still alive. It's a hard life, but it feels honest somehow.

 

[ommani]

I hear that hunting is more prevalent in Finland, but here it is mostly something for locals to do.

Finns are certainly known for their… resilience…

 

[northape]

Finns are certainly known for their… resilience…

Just watch Sisu 1 and 2 to see that Finns are crazy scary

Sisu: De l'or et du sang (2022) ⭐ 6.9 | Action, Thriller, War

1h 31m | 12

www.imdb.com

Sisu: Le chemin de la vengeance (2025) ⭐ 7.1 | Action, War

1h 29m | R

www.imdb.com

 

[ommani]

Just watch Sisu 1 and 2 to see that Finns are crazy scary

Sisu: De l'or et du sang (2022) ⭐ 6.9 | Action, Thriller, War

1h 31m | 12

www.imdb.com

Sisu: Le chemin de la vengeance (2025) ⭐ 7.1 | Action, War

1h 29m | R

www.imdb.com

Thread derailment accomplished. Have you read the Finnish collection of mythology and folklore known as, The Kalevala? Its (possibly abridged) Russian translation was a favorite of mine as a little kid - I’d like to revisit it sometime.

I remember the woods around my family’s dacha (summer home) were surrounded by barbed wire left over from the war between Russia and Finland. There weren’t many animals around, as the wildlife populations had been wiped out from over-hunting due to food shortages.

I did see a wild hedgehog one time, though. That hedgehog is long gone, but continues to give me hope for a brighter future.