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Sooo disappointed... DMT wont work anymore...

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3rdI said:
sorry but that didn't help at all, you didn't address my situation and just told me things that anyone with a decent knowledge of DMT already knows.

i'll give you some more info. i'm not new to DMT and have spent a lot of time researching it over the last 6 years, it has been my main interest. I know what i'm doing.
i have a few batches of DMT, pure white, yellow and goo, all these are from different extraction methods and have all been consistent over my time using them.
i have had other people test my DMT and it worked fine for everyone else.
i have even gone to the extent of having people timing me on my breath holding to make sure i'm not exhaling early, i am not.

i have used white, very yellow and goo with no difference in loss of effect. i have used all these in a bong with infused herb, and in a properly set up GVG with good technique, each time with both methods there is no difference in loss of effect.

i'm not scared of DMT, 90% of my experiences have been rainbows and dancing mice with epic doses of pure bliss, i am very very comfortable in the psychedelic state to the point my other psychedelic using friends think i'm a freak, i don't think this is fear based.

I am open to any explanation which explains why the effects have seriously diminished, i have no attachment to any way of thinking about this stuff. i have tried hard to eliminate as many factors as i can, all i am left with is either some kind of long term tollerance that has devleoped for some reason, or the fact that there are a few outstanding life changes that have been made known to me during my experiences but that have not yet been addressed. A science vs woo situation:lol:.
My usage has been semi consistant, and except the very beginning, it has not been excessive, which leads me to think that tolllerance isnt the issue. So i am left with the woo explanation, I am currently mopping up the final life changes and will revisit the Magic when they are fixed to see if i am able to regain the glory.

I think that not getting enough in your system is often the main reason people are unable to get a full on experience, the amount of times people join this forum and say they cant breakthrough using a crack pipe but refuse to believe there pipe is the reason is pretty funny. But i dont think not getting enough in your system really applies to people with a decent history of effective use. How can my ROA work fine for years and then suddenly start to fail for no reason?, even with a doubled dose.

so how do you think the loss of effect has come about?
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Let's suppose that our lungs do produce more monoamine oxidase after being overwhelmed with DMT often enough over a period of time, (which is probably about as close as we'll ever come to a measure for defining a scientific definition of abuse), then all we would need to do is overwhelm the MAO with even more DMT. If we were to pack our bowl with a half gram of DMT and smoke it like a bowl of marijuana with direct flame, we would be transported, because no matter how much gets destroyed, enough will make it into the lungs to overwhelm the MAO. So our goal is to overwhelm, or even better and far less wasteful, simply bypass the MAO. Godspeed in all your work
 
I was beginning to fear the same. Until, just fifteen minutes ago, I came back to vaporize it effectively. I had a breakthrough using about half of the quantity that a little earlier, vaporized in another way, had not even vaguely stimulated my visual imagination. I believe that the friends of the Op have had very light experiences and far from what we agree to call a "breakthrough". I am still not sure of the precise reason for the great difference in effectiveness between the first way of vaporizing it (32mg of pure freebase using "motar quartz coil-less wax atomizer) and the second (17mg freebase dissolved in a 50% solution with glycol propylene [the reason for this solution was to be able to keep it in a 1cc syringe well protected from oxygen and to dose accurately even without a scale], vaporized using "yocan evolve plus with the dual quartz coil mounted. Perhaps it is a pure and simple matter to vaporize the product in the most complete way, perhaps it is very important the rapidity of taking and it changes a lot even from 5 seconds to 10. A third hypothesis that came to my mind, maybe a bit funny, is that, in some cases, some mechanism is activated at the lung level that blocks the absorption of the dmt, or that it destroys it before it takes its course (a concentration of MAO enzymes?) and that the propylene glycol accelerates its absorption enough to circumvent this eventuality. This third is the most imaginative :)
 
Noxulifer said:
Hello everyone, thanks for your replies!
Yesterday I tried again and it worked fine, I smoked about 40mg and used the sandwitch method in a glass bong as always. This time I was extra extra careful with the flame, I mean, I have never been so careful. No breakthrough though, but I didn't expect that from that dosage, even if it is enough with 30mg sometimes.
I would say, from the last 15 sessions only 3-4 worked as they should.
I have become better and better at achieving pure DMT, very bright in colour, almost pure white, but not quite. Perhaps this is more sensitive to burning and my method of smoking needs to be refined?
Before, the DMT always turned out more yellow, perhaps that is not as prone to being burned and destroyed?
That wouldn't explain the Changa not working though, but I got that from another guy, which may have done an inferior product? Maybe the DMT was unevenly spread in the Changa?
I always make my own DMT, but I got some Changa to try from him.
Or, as some say here, we know so little about DMT, perhaps it happens that it just passes through our system without affecting us sometimes?
I know this can happen with Cannabis, even though it's rare. It can also happen with steroids sometimes. The human body and brain is very complex biological/chemical systems.
I just got so afraid I would never be able to enter hyperspace again, and even worse, not be able to break through again.
I have experienced such incredible things, seen such beautiful things:love: , and terrifying things:twisted: . I have a lifetime of exploring to do! and beyond life if the things I have seen are real 😉
I will come back and report after I have done a few more sessions!
Have a nice weekend!:thumb_up:
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Your comment makes me happy, Recently I've had a few shut out trips. I was worried my adventures with DMT was coming to a close.

It's good to know that taking a break and trying again can yield positive results
 
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