SPICE for a day?

[JohnIce2]

Just had a interesting though.

What if someone was hooked up to a IV that shot Spice into them at a rate that was safe and efficient for a entire day.

I know that you can in fact IV Spice through my studying methods. But like if someone had the amount to do it and did the math and had a friend who was into DynaMiTe who also happened to be a doctor or something would it be possible?

And lets use our imaginations and think of what the experience might be like. I'm interested to hear everyone opinions. I'll think that if a person was in-taking a constant am mount that they would plateau in the realm after the breakthrough stage and they may even be able to learn how to interact within it. I have heard a few reports of people going to a place where beings were trying to get them to interact but they were just to dumb founded.

Anyways! Have fun everyone! I'll stay in touch!

 

[TGO]

As interesting as this may be, most people find that spice for 4-6 hours is more than enough and quite overwhelming (via pharmahuasca/Ayahuasca/or any variation of oral ingestion.).

I don't doubt that it could be done with proper preparation and administration but it is one of the least popular methods of ingestion. This is due to the fact that you need absolute precision and purity/sterility when administering in this fashion.

I am assuming you are talking theoretically, yes? In that case it would indeed be one of the most intricate and insane experiences one could subject themselves to, IMO. If going with the IV route, you must be very careful and you must know what you are doing.

 

[JohnIce2]

Ok cool! haha and yes I was indeed speaking theoretically. It was just a interesting idea I though of.

Do you have any thoughts on what a experience like that might be like?

And the main reason I asked about the IV route is because I though it would be the only one capable of keeping one in that type of state constantly. Unless their was some sort of way to have it vaporize into a gas mask type thing in set intervals over a certain period of time.

 

[Godsmacker]

Albeit interesting, I wouldn't suggest trying it.

An IV drip, by keeping a constant level of DMT circulating in your bloodstream, may cause rapid tolerance buildup after a few hours, reducing intensity of subjective effects for god knows how long.

ON the opposite end of the spectrum, if reverse tolerance develops, you may be in for a slowly ascending dive into the depths of hyperspace straight toward the godhead and out into the great dissociated nether lands of consciousness (which I would not want to ascend to while hooked up to an IV drip due to my fear of needles coupled with an intense dissociated/disoriented psychedelic state). If this hypothesis is true, it may just lead to a total blackout and possible infection/pain/injury due to absentmindedly finagling your body around while an IV catheter is shooting up DMT into your vein.

ALso, a sitter would be mandatory in this method IMO. It wouldn't be nice if you went too far into the wormhole and forgot you had a body and dragged your veins right up out of your arm (or infected them or caused severe hemmorhaging/bleeding due to mismanagement). A sitter to manage your IV and stop the drip if things go sour would be a good thing to have around (DMT can throw some really weird extradimensional curve balls one's way when they least expect it and in such a situation I wouldn't dare dream of being in such a vulnerable state when/if such a curveball gets thrown my way).

I heard that Krystal Kole experimented with such a method, but I have yet to further research her trip report regarding that (however, it would be a good resource to look into if you are hell-bent on doing it).

Another potential hazard is that, albeit relatively pure, I wouldn't want to put home made DMT straight into my veins. The IV ROA has little room for error. Contaminants and improper procedure can be painful and outright death-fully damaging to yourself (possibly permanently). I wouldn't play with those dice unless the product was purified to >99%, dissolved in sterile saline solution, and adjusted/sterilized in order to ensure proper isotonic PH/bloodlike conditions after being prepared. IV is no joke-it is a life-and-death ROA in every sense of the subject.

I do not wish to discourage your curiosity, but rather hope to encourage further research on your behalf into the proper safety precautions and procedure surrounding such an interesting method of DMT administration. If you or others manage to pull it off (with or without fatalities), please let me know! I would love to read all about what you find and experience through this balls-to-the-wall way of breaking through to the other side.

All the best,
-God

 

[null24]

I recall reading about the missile silo acid lab guy getting all paranoid about an associate and hooking him up to a DMT drip as a torture device. (Sorry bout the memory failure- was his GF KK- neurosoup girl?)

I think a day in hyperspace would break my brain.

 

[○]

Oral MAOI and smoked DMT.

Take a sufficiently large oral dose of an MAO inhibiting plant, smoke DMT in relatively spaced intervals, then tell me that you'd want to be there for a whole day.

 

[DoingKermit]

I recall reading about the missile silo acid lab guy getting all paranoid about an associate and hooking him up to a DMT drip as a torture device. (Sorry bout the memory failure- was his GF KK- neurosoup girl?)

I think a day in hyperspace would break my brain.

They explain that nasty situation with "William Leonard Pickard" in the Vice documentary "Hooked on Krystle". Towards the end they go into how Pickard kidnapped Krystle and her boyfriend and locked them in a hotel room. They say he tied up the boyfriend and put a drip into his arm, which he would then mix in all sorts of psychedelic concoctions... including DMT :shock:

It isn't cool to hear of an LSD manufacturer being such an evil bastard.

Here's the Vice doc if you're interested:

[YOUTUBE]

 

[acacian]

DoingKermit, I"m pretty sure it was Gordon Todd Skinner who was involved in that nasty situation and my understanding was that he mainly just took care of the business side of things while pickard did most of the cooking.. if memory serves correctly

 

[JohnIce2]

Haha interesting replies!

I was just speaking theoretically. I haven't been able to breakthrough yet (Ive gotten a few good batches but the state my materials are in I either don't have pure DMT or its just another chemical all together)

It was just a weird though I had. Would one say that the breakthrough experience is frightening?

 

[Jees]

Deja vu subject?

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...

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"Indeed ole pall, indeed, it's distinct character reminds, how do you suggest to proceed?"
"As usual my friend..."

:twisted:

 

[DoingKermit]

DoingKermit, I"m pretty sure it was Gordon Todd Skinner who was involved in that nasty situation and my understanding was that he mainly just took care of the business side of things while pickard did most of the cooking.. if memory serves correctly

You are right, acacian. I definitely got the names mixed up when I wrote that.

 

[Sabnock1990]

I wish i could extend the duration of oral DMT. Still have the quick come up, but once things stabilize, have a more extended duration. I would love being on DMT for a whole day, oral DMT makes me feel pretty normal and functionable, even with high doses once the come up stabilizes.

 

[JohnIce2]

You could always just wait about a hour or two after you come up then re dose with some already prep-ed DMT/Aya. and the trip would initially stack on top of itself. I used to do this with LSA. I would take one dose, and then take another about a hour longer to extend the peak by a hour.

 

[spinCycle]

How much, if anything, could you bring back from such an experience anyway?

The shamans dedicate a lifetime to getting to the point where they can function in both worlds and connect between.I kind of doubt the casual traveler would have the mental and spiritual resources to integrate much of anything post trip.

 

[Jees]

Quality beats quantity.