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Exp. Report Spirit possession and the beginning of my path

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northape

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This experience happened back in 2013, and it was my second one with rue. The first time, I drank rue by itself a week prior, which resulted in a whole night of purging. Most likely, it cleansed my body and produced the opening that led to the following ayahuasca analog journey. I used 10g of Hawaiian chacruna cooked for 30 minutes with 3g of rue.

I knew right away that this session was going to be different. The medicine took over quickly, and I heard a voice in my mental space: "What do you want to heal?" It was the only time I heard a clear voice from the brew. It was in my head, but the source felt external, as if coming from some kind of intelligence. Back then, I had an issue with my nose and some breathing problems, so I naturally pointed to it and asked for healing. Moments later, I found myself in the silent, dark space of my room with medicine music playing in the background. I was facing the wall a few meters ahead of me when ayahuasca symbols started to appear. They were very similar to the well-known zigzag patterns of neon green, and one of them caught my attention. As I focused on it, a profound shift occurred in my state. My eyes rolled back, and I began to see many visions. I do not know how much time passed. When I opened my eyes and tried to focus on the dark space again, I found myself sitting cross-legged like a yogi with a straight back. The whole room transformed into a vast space, and my awareness opened into the cleanest, most open state I can remember to this day. I immediately noted to myself: "That is how high-level meditators see the world." The shift was so stark compared to my mundane reality that my whole being just basked in it. Simply sitting and being was enough; I had no other thoughts to speak of.
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Suddenly, I saw a distant mountain range and a number of beings sitting in full lotus flying from there toward me. They felt very sacred and wise. Then, one of them entered my body. It felt as if something enormous and heavy went into my skin. I would say it was larger than a truck, but somehow it found a place to rest within me. At that moment, I lost control and became a passive observer of the entire situation. That being never spoke, but immediately began to perform a series of breathing exercises through my body. It was a form of pranayama, very unlike anything found in yogic literature. Some breaths were shallow, while others were deep. It made a number of deep sounds and so on. Honestly, I can hardly remember any of it, even if everything was as clear as day in the moment. When one being left me, another took its place and performed a new series of pranayamas. These shifts continued for what felt like days, and I started to worry about what was happening and how long it would continue. However, my primary feeling was gratitude, and I bowed to each one after it had finished its job. The entire procedure was accompanied by extreme shifts in my energy as well. Eventually, I saw all of them fly off to a different mountain range and found myself back in my room. I was exhausted and at a loss for words. I had read about entity encounters before, but this was on another level. They took over and performed healing from the inside. I never even questioned them. Each one felt so large, wise, and ancient that my little self could not even compare.
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Back in my room, the journey was still going strong. It felt as if I had been in the process for days, and the medicine once again showed me what was bothering me. Essentially, I was too disconnected from society and desperately wanted a place within the tribe. This realization shook me to the core, and I cried a great deal. Moments later, I saw a large sphere of light that somehow represented my mind. The medicine was nudging me to explore more, but I was finished and pleaded for it to stop. In the blink of an eye, the journey abruptly ended, and I was seemingly completely sober. The only thought my head could produce was: "What was that?"

What followed were the hardest few months of my life. Each night, I would have a DMT trip instead of normal dreaming. The breathing exercises the spirits performed through me produced a significant effect on my waking consciousness as well. I could see and feel the world as alive and breathing. Even watching simple patterns would catch my attention and lead to hyperspace or deep absorption. Somehow, I closed that opening, but to this day, I wonder what would have happened if I had let it be. My life was hard from a mundane standpoint, but I was the most alive I have ever been. I worked with plants extensively after that but could never come close to that experience. Years later, all my visions disappeared as well. I wonder if I closed my third eye for good in this life. I saw it as a large eye at the top of my skull closing; that was the vision. I am still shaking just writing about it many years later. Sometimes, the medicine just takes you.
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Can I ask about "the neon wall"?
Is it a common theme?

I lately had a DMT smoke and all trip was a neon Hebrew wall with shifting colors. The colors shifted in a rainbow theme clearly in rhythm with the spoken word that was put in my head.

Somehow I feel off, cause I always encounter having words put in my head.
 
Can I ask about "the neon wall"?
Is it a common theme?

I lately had a DMT smoke and all trip was a neon Hebrew wall with shifting colors. The colors shifted in a rainbow theme clearly in rhythm with the spoken word that was put in my head.

Somehow I feel off, cause I always encounter having words put in my head.
I think these usual aya patterns come from the chacruna. It's her character to present herself that way. What I saw was similar to the first picture in my post.
The only difference is that these patterns were in 3D and hanging in space. Focusing on any of them would lead into a visual experience, as always.
Each DMT plant has its own vibe and visual representation. Acacia tends to be cartoonish, and mimosa is closer to the general DMT theme.

Smoked DMT without any harmalas would give a different effect. Further, it's all based on your own symbols. These plants try to present info in a way you'd understand.
So search inside. What does it mean for you? Sometimes it's just a representation of energy and has no real meaning behind it - just seeing it is the meaning.
I'm far from an authority on plant use, so all of it is my own speculation.
 
Thanks for sharing this fascinating account @northape I too get curious about what would have happened if you made no attempt to close the opening.

In 2010 I had some Hawaiian chacruna with caapi and felt like I was on the verge of not knowing who/what I was, or what was happening to me (it still wasn’t a visionary experience like the one you described, though). Eventually, the journey opened up to an experience of unearthly calm that felt like transcending the duality of life and death. I felt pretty floaty in the days that followed, but nothing like the significant opening you described.
 
@northape I think it's entirely possible to reopen your third eye – if that's what you truly want to do... go to Anna's Archive and download Awakening the Third Eye by Samuel Sagan... he has some pretty good suggestions in there.

Honestly I've yet to return to this book because... well, if you're seeing dragons and ghosts, and you have no one to talk to about it, it can be a little unbalancing. At least for me....
 
In 2010 I had some Hawaiian chacruna with caapi and felt like I was on the verge of not knowing who/what I was, or what was happening to me (it still wasn’t a visionary experience like the one you described, though). Eventually, the journey opened up to an experience of unearthly calm that felt like transcending the duality of life and death. I felt pretty floaty in the days that followed, but nothing like the significant opening you described.
Hawaiian chacruna was indeed special. Funny enough, it looks like I had last batch that came to Europe, and it disappeared right after. So, I'm grateful that I got to experience its magic. I do wonder what my life would look like if I had approached it differently. Although, I was pretty naive back then and thought that all light plants were the same. What I omitted in my report was a clear message from the plants to stop any further exploration and live my life. Needless to say, I thought that I knew better and went all in instead. I think that was my own fate at play, but still...
@northape I think it's entirely possible to reopen your third eye – if that's what you truly want to do... go to Anna's Archive and download Awakening the Third Eye by Samuel Sagan... he has some pretty good suggestions in there.
Thank you for your suggestion. I'll check it out.
Edit: I've checked the book, and it looks like I use many of the methods from it already. It's not like my spiritual vision is fully gone, but it feels like some kind of veil hides its full expression. My intuition is that mushrooms can help in this department more than anything else. I'm interested in exploring changa and mushrooms later on. First, I'll take a long break from the medicine starting this summer. I've got a lot to digest and need to create a more grounded life based on all the lessons I've received over the years.
Honestly I've yet to return to this book because... well, if you're seeing dragons and ghosts, and you have no one to talk to about it, it can be a little unbalancing. At least for me....
That was my biggest problem back then. I had two lives running in parallel: mundane struggles and deep, every-night journeying. No one would get it, and I felt quite alone with my struggles. It was too much for me back then. I worked extensively with acacia bark later on, and I think it leads away from visions, at least in my case.
 
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There is also a possibility that these spirits pushed you more into this layer of reality.
Sure. My life fully changed direction after that experience. That is why I still remember it years later. One thing is certain: I have become much more aware of my inner life.
That symbolic representation of yogic beings was based on my own images. I do feel that they were some kind of healing spirits and not yogis or anything like that. For most of my life, I have been interested in Tibetan Buddhism and spirituality. Even in my teens, I was fascinated by stories from the Himalayas. Medicine does work with what we have inside.

My work with barks was focused on wisdom and "Who am I?" investigation, and it shifted toward devotion later on. Who knows which forces plan these programs for us? I do miss a more engaging visual style of work, because it has all become very somatic for me. Only very high doses of light give visions, but they are once again veiled somehow. Most likely, it just pushes me toward a certain style of work, and it will all change further down the road. Visuals could easily become a distraction, leading one away from the real work that needs to be done. Anyhow, I have made peace with it all, but some part of me still wants this transcending experience to repeat. Everything comes in its own rightful time, though.
 
Awesome and beautiful experience!

The plants planted their spiritual seeds. Now you can find and 'listen' to the plants that will sprout from within.

But you already know this.

🦋
 
Hi Northape,

I apologise in advance for the wall of text but it always strikes me in the core and leaves me more and more fascinated how we all share fundamentally and phenomenologically similar experiences. It is a rare occasion for me to share my thoughts on this subjects and I'll catch this train!!

"Possession" has been a staple experience for me when interacting with the Spice, and slowly I'm starting to realize that other plants and situations have a similar effect.

Maybe it is a dose-dependent factor but when you understand the feeling you can catch it and amplify it, like recognizing something that you for example know by sight, not with your eyes, but with your sense of touch. You learn to understand how it works.

At the appropriate dose the events that happen in my field of perception (in the most appropriate way I can remember) are:

-Something is not wrong.
-Anxiety and racing thoughts.
-Something similar to heavy panic, akin to when as a child you understand that something is broken in an bad, unfixable way; you know that ugly knee/chest sensation.

-Realizing something other than "me" is there.
-Recognizing what it is and calming down by breathing.

-Inviting it in by various means.

-Testing/tasting/seeing/touching/hearing/feeling it passing through me and if it isn't something good apply restrictive measures for making it understand that it is not welcome in my domain.

-If it is positive I let it take control of the body, adjusting it to my system, usually asking for knowledge about something or a help if my body is in pain.

-Perform actions by instructions be it breathing in a certain pattern, moving the body, stretching, coughing, burping, cleaning the lungs, chanting, moving hands and fingers, laughing, crying, contemplating the experience or more generally what needs to be done.

-It does not fix/heals/reveals completely or clearly. Often it gives you a nod in the right direction. In some cases the help is bigger, maybe it reflects the pharmacological effect of the dosage.

-It leaves, gently, with a thought tail feeling of "remember me, remember what I told you, work on it".

-Start feeling my body clearly again, open my eyes, perceiving the last patterns leaving.

-Asking myself every time if I'm going crazy or if this thing actually works in this way hahaha. The somatic effects are without any doubt real, testable and repeatable.

-Thanking and Integrating.

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In the literature I've read that many cultures that utilize/utilized this instruments, mainly tryptamine containing plants, reported this kind of phenomenon. It is intriguing that we are subjectively experiencing the exact same mystery.

The fist time I took the right dose of brew was traumatic. I made it myself with rue and mimosa, mint and lemon balm and I understood that until that moment I was only playing and testing the potency.

I asked healing for my gut, aching every day for years. I was tired of it, and I was expecting a magical fix hahahah.

I drank the first half of the portion and after waiting an hour nothing was happening. Only some slight nausea and spaced out feeling. I was frustrated, this whole ayahuasca thing wasn't working!!

So I drank the second half, in a challenging, angry way, thinking maybe at least I'll have some visuals.

It came on instantly. From my stomach it ramified in the back, as if the thing I had just drank was alive, and it felt as if it stripped off the inside of my intestines.

Then I was somewhere else, it was all dark, I had no body. Bright red smooth polished exagons, contoured with multicoloured lights started forming a giant infinite wall that moved in a serpentine/robotic way.

From the point in front of my perception the wall protruded two robotic tentacles that thrusted into my forhead.

I opened my eyes in consensus reality, geometries everywhere, something had entered my system and was dumping a load of informations in the form of short visual stories about nature, humanity and ancient happenings. I purged from both ends. It was thrashing my mind too. I was afraid of having poisoned myself, I stumbled in the shower and washed myself, full of fear and anxiety.

The residual effects took four days to wore off, I was smoking chillums continuously to control it because it kept coming on in cycles.

That days I have learnt that you can make the brew interact with foods and modulate the gut and the body. I have learnt that it's not a magical instant fix but that it is a slow healing and learning process. Cells have to divide and grow new tissues in my intestines, synapses and thought patterns have to form day by day, reflecting themselves into behaviours that have to be guided and consolidated.

A bit of a ramble as usual. I'm a bit tired, so I'll stop here. I'm really open to discussing these mysteries, there are many ways and techniques to understand that could be helpful to navigate this unknown ocean of states and the "spirits" we encounter. It would be cool to compile a list of them, I'm starting to notice many recurrent ones, some linked to specific set and setting.

Thank you!!

☀️
 
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