Staying lucid then peering into the realm, anyone experience this?

[Gojoe]

So dmt has been tricky for swim. Gvg for administration, honeymoon period , crazy nonstop breakthroughs. Usually negative experiences but he attribute that to his inner lack of peace.

Then diminishing returns. To the point of frustration due to lack of breakthrough, feeling shut out. Especially solo. But with his girlfriend tripping with him able to break through. Mostly confusing trips.

Wonders why couldn't trip solo, when honeymoon period was fine.

Today though, smokes, doesn't necessarily "break through". Stays somewhat lucid, puts head into lap and focuses inwards, and somehow peers into visuals, like never seen before. Egyptian God's or something.

Has anyone else tried this method of tripping? Not smoking to the point of hyperspace blast off but able to peer into the realm as an outsider looking in??!

Very strange experience

Just prior to this experience swim remembers a voice, DMT itself, telling him he's using it wrong.

 

[atomu235]

Almost no one uses the term swim nowadays. I never quite understood the purpose ;-P

Anyways. I have had 30 or 40 (?) experiences where I purposefully took less than breakthrough dose. Just enough to get to me to edge and still be able to fully exist in everyday 'reality'. To be able to open up my eyes and look at our world (it is magnificent btw). Note - these almost breakthrough doses were really hard at the start. For most ppl this is the least pleasant part of the journey. It only becomes 'smooth sailing' after you break through.

The experiences I had varied wildly with some being extremely strange. For example I had two extremely weird ones where with my eyes closed I had ZERO CEVs (!!!) and I felt as if I am very, very close (for the lack of a better phrase) to a different person somewhere on our planet (1st - some old lady talking to someone in a marketplace in South America, the other one a cyclist somewhere in Germany). I heard them speaking, the background commotion as if I was right there (I'm kind of guessing the old lady in SA one but I know German and recognized the language in the 2nd experience straight away). Another example was when I vaped DMT surrounded by plants. I was certain they were trying to communicate with me. Super weird to say the least ;-)

I'm still trying to find a pattern and will continue to do so. This is pure speculation on my side but I'm thinking this is the only way to even have a chance to scrape the surface of the DMT dimension (if it's a dimension at all, we'll most likely never know). Aim is to be right in between the two worlds...

I do understand that basically the goal of taking DMT is the breakthrough but I like approaching things in a different way

In the end of the day I'm quite sure that my brain is simply trying to make some sense in a flood of information after taking DMT. This is probably absolute lunacy on my side and I will most likely fail ;-)

I'm still going to try to understand nonetheless...

 

[Gojoe]

That's interesting. Possible astral projection?

I don't do any meditation but it was almost as if I was in some meditative state when peering through.

When I do break through, it's mostly pure confusion/ or wild conspiracy plots I'm involved in/ and very, very rarely visually impressive as most report.

Open eyed can range from my entire surroundings being fractured into cube like fractals to the gvg tansforming and spiraling around as I toke.

The lucidity and closed eye visuals were much, much more pleasant and I plan to continue to experiment with this.

I wonder if DMT just reacts with me differently.

 

[Northerner]

Personally I find breakthrough rather jarring and it's not something I strive for when using DMT. It can leave me out of sorts for at least a day or two, but sometimes a week or more. Not really that much fun.

But yeah. I totally like pushing it to the edge and then closing my eyes. I've had great and even prophetic visions using it this way.

Nothing wrong in my book. :thumb_up:

 

[atomu235]

That's interesting. Possible astral projection?

It's anyone's guess if that is even possible...

I was in a chatty mood yesterday but Northerner described is nice and short. There is nothing wrong with a sub breakthrough experience. It can actually be preferable for some.

 

[Rainner]

That's interesting. Possible astral projection?

It's anyone's guess if that is even possible...

I can attest to astral projection as it is referred to here. It is quit an amazing experience for the conscious mind to wrap its head around in 3D or the linear. I've never projected with the help of DMT or any substance, just through my own inner growth, centering, and expansion with meditation and desire.

Anyone can achieve or attain anything if they so desire. We are multidimensional beings after all , they just never told us growing up! LOL

Just waking up to who we are or who I am is an awesome experience in itself and opens so many doors; everything is possible, and I mean everything even if it defying physics. Nothing is static.

This is just my personal experience speaking here. Everyone has there own truth, and there is no right or wrong, just different frequencies.

- Rainner