Stop the prosecution of ibogaine provider Sara Glatt! Sign the petition!!!

[mescaline-man]

Click the link to read the story and sign the petition. :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up:

This woman doesn't deserve this....

10,000 signatures are needed.

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Stop the prosecution of ibogaine provider Sara Glatt

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Kind of sad that this thread has more than triple the amount of views than there are signatures on the actual petition. For those who are not reading the article (basing this off of some comments), the woman was not imprisoned because the treatment using iboga was illegal, but because of the circumstances involving a patient who violently demanded to leave the medical supervision after the administration of ibogaine.

So, it's not like you are indicting yourself by signing this petition. Men in black suits are not going to be knocking on your door because you stood behind something you believe in.

 

[ChemicalPhilosophy]

Signed.

I have yet to try iboga or ibogaine, but i have done some research on it and i already have tremendous respect for it, as with all nature. It saddens me to see that someone could be incarcerated for such a mystical and magical plant.

I will spread this among my friends and family.

 

[zedwings]

Signed and shared.

 

[Dethrone]

Signed

 

[VoidTraveler]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

What bothers me most is that she just continued to carry out Ibogaine treatments after the department of justice told her to stop giving treatments until after the trial. By doing that she not only endangered herself, her clients but also the legal status of Ibogaine. She has a responsibility to keep both her patients and the medicine safe.

Signing this petition will most likely be a futile attempt. Someone died as a result of her actions and she'll has to answer to a court for that, regardless of all the good work she has done. It's a shame this had to end so badly for her, especially since she was doing such important work.

 

[mescaline-man]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

What bothers me most is that she just continued to carry out Ibogaine treatments after the department of justice told her to stop giving treatments until after the trial. By doing that she not only endangered herself, her clients but also the legal status of Ibogaine. She has a responsibility to keep both her patients and the medicine safe.

Signing this petition will most likely be a futile attempt. Someone died as a result of her actions and she'll has to answer to a court for that, regardless of all the good work she has done. It's a shame this had to end so badly for her, especially since she was doing such important work.

True, but it sounds to me like the guy was being forceful and not cooperating, but she should have some kind of security or back-up to help her if someone tries to leave. This is a very sad situation all the way around.

 

[The Traveler]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

The problem as I understood it, is that the man refused to stay at the place where he was being treated.

It is illegal to deprive a person of their liberty, hence you are not allowed to lock a person in your home, not even while on an Iboga treatment. If this person wanted to leave, the only thing she could have done is talking to him and hoping that he would stay.

In the end he did not stay and that was his (unfortunate) right.


What this shows is not that we should presecute this woman, but that we should have better clinics where people CAN be locked (with previously signed conscent) while being treated.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[mescaline-man]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

The problem as I understood it, is that the man refused to stay at the place where he was being treated.

It is illegal to deprive a person of their liberty, hence you are not allowed to lock a person in your home, not even while on an Iboga treatment. If this person wanted to leave, the only thing she could have done is talking to him and hoping that he would stay.

In the end he did not stay and that was his (unfortunate) right.


What this shows is not that we should presecute this woman, but that we should have better clinics where people CAN be locked (with previously signed conscent) while being treated.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[rjb]

Signed and shared.

 

[VoidTraveler]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

The problem as I understood it, is that the man refused to stay at the place where he was being treated.

It is illegal to deprive a person of their liberty, hence you are not allowed to lock a person in your home, not even while on an Iboga treatment. If this person wanted to leave, the only thing she could have done is talking to him and hoping that he would stay.

In the end he did not stay and that was his (unfortunate) right.


What this shows is not that we should presecute this woman, but that we should have better clinics where people CAN be locked (with previously signed conscent) while being treated.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

I had not looked at it from that perspective. Thanks, because that is a more logical point of view.

 

[bindu]

I have very mixed feelings about this petition. Even though this woman might have a long track record of helping hundreds of people cure their addiction, she's responsible for the death of some one who trusted to be safe with her.

What bothers me most is that she just continued to carry out Ibogaine treatments after the department of justice told her to stop giving treatments until after the trial. By doing that she not only endangered herself, her clients but also the legal status of Ibogaine. She has a responsibility to keep both her patients and the medicine safe.

Signing this petition will most likely be a futile attempt. Someone died as a result of her actions and she'll has to answer to a court for that, regardless of all the good work she has done. It's a shame this had to end so badly for her, especially since she was doing such important work.

Responsible? Yes she is responsible to some degree. Mostly for accepting this guy for treatment in the first place.

After the ibogaine session the dickhead had to get drunk in a local hotel (which is also the biggest employer in the area...)
then went outside and got himself killed by a car. So is the hotel responsible? The driver? God? The idiot himself?

So yeah, taking psychotic people is a big risk conducting iboga treatments. Thats why there are so few good providers out there.
If she would work with a medical team (highly experienced neuropsychiatriest) just to exclude psychotic people which are good at lying it would make the treatments cost at least 10000€.
I know junkies that would just go cold turkey if somone offered them 10000€ .... so there is that too

Also, why she got arrested:
A guy from another country slept over at her place. In the morning the police came and picked her up as of suspicious behaviour assuming she would treat the guy. The Netherlands being so free and great are not free of businessman (the local hotel) requesting favours from politic friends. With a NL law that permits the police taking anyone in custody for suspicion indefinitely you have a kind of political prisoner named Sara Glatt.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

Signed. It is very unfortunate the situation surrounding this case, but what is more scary is the fact that the NL has a law of indefinite detention on suspicion... Another example that the bourgeois democracies care just as little about human liberty as the next authoritarian regime.

 

[smoalker]

signed
it is very sad indeed

 

[philo(Sophia)]

Signed, as someone who can relate to what and why this woman was helping people in the manner that she was, I find it very sad that something like this has happened to her.

 

[Inner Paths]

Signed.

 

[tempest]

signed. no way she deserves that.

 

[Technique]

Wow what a price to pay for helping so many people. She must be devastated.

 

[cirquefreak333]

Signed

 

[hug46]

signed from what ive read she doesnt deserve this:thumb_dow

 

[acacian]

any news on this?