Storing at different stages of an extraction

[Alienteaparty]

OK well pretty much i don't have the time at the moment to do a whole extraction in one go. so my question is can you stop during certain steps of an extraction and store the mixture for a day or two and then do the rest.
For example: If i were to do two acid boils and be left with the bark tea could that mixture be stored in a HDPE jug for a day or two at room temperature? and could i start the basifying process after and then store it after i added the lye? how could this affect the yields and would i have to take any additional steps/ precautions to make this work?

I had the idea of leaving the bark in the tea for the two days after i boiled it because this could possibly extract more dimmi. not too sure if it would work or not but i might give it a go unless someone thinks otherwise.

i will be using the DMT Handbook tek on Acacia Acuminata bark.

all posts are appreciated, cheers!

 

[Perceptual Reality]

The largest yield i ever had was a result of leaving my mixture overnight in jug at room temperature. I used q21q21s A/B tek though so it may be different. I'm not completely sure if this was the reason for the nice 1.2% yield, but i haven't yielded that much since.

 

[seven7seven]

If using A/B I'd imagine the acidic tea would keep for a long time without much degradation of DMT (as it is in a salt form).

I am curious how long the freebase can be held in suspension in naptha (or other solvent) without degrading.

 

[Alienteaparty]

well i will most probably be documenting this extraction and posting it up so stay tuned. but it wont be for a week or two.

 

[Perceptual Reality]

well i will most probably be documenting this extraction and posting it up so stay tuned. but it wont be for a week or two.

Of course! Im always interested

 

[landfishd]

I kept my basic solution for a couple of weeks after my extraction. When I attempted another NP pull before throwing the basic solution away everything came out yellow. This was from an A/B and freeze precip, and the first time it came out white.

 

[Alienteaparty]

I kept my basic solution for a couple of weeks after my extraction. When I attempted another NP pull before throwing the basic solution away everything came out yellow. This was from an A/B and freeze precip, and the first time it came out white.

i dont know if i quite understand :S
the solution you stored for a few weeks yeilded white dmt, or yellow?

 

[Perceptual Reality]

I kept my basic solution for a couple of weeks after my extraction. When I attempted another NP pull before throwing the basic solution away everything came out yellow. This was from an A/B and freeze precip, and the first time it came out white.

i dont know if i quite understand :S
the solution you stored for a few weeks yeilded white dmt, or yellow?

He's saying that after storing his solution and attempting a pull the dmt came out yellow

 

[endlessness]

It is no problem at all to take longer with your extraction, yields wont be affected negatively, except if you for example are doing an A/B, and you have boiled your brew, it is better to decant/filter while still hot/warm, because most alkaloids will be dissolved in it. But if you just boil the brew again its no problem to have this pause. Or if youre not using powdered bark, then making more and longer boils and pauses/long soaks is also recommended.

If youre doing an STB or already in the basified stage, it is no problem to leave it standing, it might even further break bark material to further release dmt. Though I would say for powdered bark difference will be minimal due to already big surface area already exposed.

If you leave a pull sitting together with the basified brew (or a bit of the last pull), it is possible as others said it becomes yellower, and that the dmt pulled has more plant oils and such impurities. But this is no problem, just keep pulling as normal and if later you want, you can recrystallize which is an easy and beautiful process.

Dont throw anything away before you have your final yield! Also its recommended to do at least one last long pull where you leave standing for days to pick up last bits of dmt (and if your using naphtha and freeze precipitate this last pull separately and a significant amount of dmt comes off, do yet another pull, keep going until no more or very little comes out)

DMT molecule isnt vulnerable in any of the conditions present in your typical extraction, so you dont have to worry about it "going bad".

 

[Perceptual Reality]

It is no problem at all to take longer with your extraction, yields wont be affected negatively, except if you for example are doing an A/B, and you have boiled your brew, it is better to decant/filter while still hot/warm, because most alkaloids will be dissolved in it. But if you just boil the brew again its no problem to have this pause. Or if youre not using powdered bark, then making more and longer boils and pauses/long soaks is also recommended.

If youre doing an STB or already in the basified stage, it is no problem to leave it standing, it might even further break bark material to further release dmt. Though I would say for powdered bark difference will be minimal due to already big surface area already exposed.

If you leave a pull sitting together with the basified brew (or a bit of the last pull), it is possible as others said it becomes yellower, and that the dmt pulled has more plant oils and such impurities. But this is no problem, just keep pulling as normal and if later you want, you can recrystallize which is an easy and beautiful process.

Dont throw anything away before you have your final yield! Also its recommended to do at least one last long pull where you leave standing for days to pick up last bits of dmt (and if your using naphtha and freeze precipitate this last pull separately and a significant amount of dmt comes off, do yet another pull, keep going until no more or very little comes out)

DMT molecule isnt vulnerable in any of the conditions present in your typical extraction, so you dont have to worry about it "going bad".

Hey, endlessness, I had a question....

I recently did an A/B extraction following the steps with caution, and my final product turned up brown. Almost like sand, but a little darker. They were definitely crystals though. Do you know why this may have happened?

Also, I didnt clean the jar i used to put the naptha in from my prior extraction. Could this have effected it?


Oh, and it took about 5 days for the crystals in the jar to dry! And when i scraped them, they weren't even fully dry!

 

[endlessness]

Maybe excess plant oils ? Maybe tiny droplets of mimosa solution that were suspended and hadnt settled and came across to the final product? Maybe weird solvent impurities (did you check msds/ do evap test on solvent?)

In any case I would suggest doing a mini a/b on it (redissolve in hot vinegar water, add base, pull with solvent again and freeze precip) to make sure any potential lye/mimosa traces are gone, and/or at least do a recrystallization to clean it. FAQ has all the instructions for re-x.

Also I suggest you check out this thread

Good luck!

 

[Perceptual Reality]

Maybe excess plant oils ? Maybe tiny droplets of mimosa solution that were suspended and hadnt settled and came across to the final product? Maybe weird solvent impurities (did you check msds/ do evap test on solvent?)

In any case I would suggest doing a mini a/b on it (redissolve in hot vinegar water, add base, pull with solvent again and freeze precip) to make sure any potential lye/mimosa traces are gone, and/or at least do a recrystallization to clean it. FAQ has all the instructions for re-x.

Also I suggest you check out this thread

Good luck!

Ahh, I didnt do an evap test, I kind of assumed that vm+p natpha was pretty clean. Will do, though.

I've had excess plant oils before, so i made sure i added a filter to my jar so any mimosa/plant oils didnt get in my jar. Ill try to recrystallize.

Thank you, I knew you could clear this up for me!

 

[Alienteaparty]

Thanks a lot for all that information Endlessness. it was quite helpful. I was thinking maybe if im going to be storing the solutions for periods of time, somebody could recommend a good tek that would work in favor of storing.
and my bark is rather coarse actually. so soaking it in an acidified solution for a few days would squeeze all the last bits of dmt out of that bark awsome!
once again thanks to everyone who posted here
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