Strange reaction to Enhanced leaf

[Locoboy]

Hello guys and girls, i would like your opinion on something that troubled me some days ago considering enhanced leaf. Me and some friends of mine were sharing a joint of enhanced leaf (35% DMT) and a girl among the group had a very strange reaction.

She took only ONE puff (i know that with ONE puff you feel it very lightly), while me and the others in the group smoked 4-5 puffs in a row before passing it.

At first she seemed to take it okay, kinda liked it, but after a while i noticed that she looked really scared, her eyes had taken an expression of terror and she started to seem completely "lost". I asked her if she was okay, she seemed to go out of this horrific state and told me she is but she needs to rest in a bed. I was holding her hand, taking her inside and she collapsed on the way to bed, she fainted.

She was out of her senses for half a minute and then i got her up (she regained consciousness) and put her to bed. After a while, she told me that at first she liked it, but then it seemed as if she was somewhere else, listening to voices (our voices or not?) as if they were coming from a distance. She felt like she was being sucked (she put it exactly like that) somewhere and my question (of "Are you okay"?) brought her back.

I got scared to say the least. 3 more guys and me puffed and puffed and herself only with 1 puff, ended up like that. All of them were doing it for the first time. What do you think?

 

[Bigflip1991]

Not really strange. Sounds like dmt.


Some People are sensitive.


And if dmt wants to have a word with you it doesn't matter the dose it will reach out and pull you in.

 

[OrionFyre]

Sounds like dmt.

My thoughts exactly

 

[Running Bear]

Like someone already said it's like any other drug. Some people are more sensitive than other's. One person may need 60mg while another 25 or 30mg. I can get strong effects from 10mg. It's just the way it is.

 

[Ulim]

She took only ONE puff

Maybe she just has way better technique than y'all combined 8)
Also she probably weighs less than most of you.
Also non smokers get hit harder because soft n fresh lungs.

 

[TGO]

Next time, I would highly recommend putting that enhanced leaf in a bong for you and the friends who were left a bit underwhelmed. You guys should have better luck that way, hopefully. If you do this method right, one puff is all you will need. I like the "one hit quit" methods because it doesn't give me enough time to chicken out of going all the way between puffs on the bong.

I've never personally had the courage to smoke a DMT joint mainly because I fear I'll zonk out and get swept up by the trip, only to come back and see that I've burned a hole in my shorts/legs/couch etc etc...:shock:

Of course, I usually take DMT on my own or with my significant other and changa in the bonga is our preferred ROA.

But yes, as others have said, it definitely sounds like DMT.

 

[Locoboy]

Hello to everyone and thank you for your answers. It seemed strange to me because the enhanced leaf is in analogy of 1:2 dmt to herbs, therefore much "weaker" than what is recommended generally in this forum, and from personal experience 1 puff, no matter how well taken, is not supposed to cause something like this. Of course i accept the explanation that some people are more sensitive than others, and this girl was a little bit afraid before trying it too. She is a heavy cannabis smoker and she smokes tobacco too by the way.


Grateful i know that smoking changa in a bong is the proper way. I have recommended it to some friends of mine that wanted to try dmt in the first place, but they are afraid of doing it. I also haven't done it, but have reached breakthrough or near breakthrough with a changa joint many times. It takes some puffs to get there with that 30% dmt enhanced leaf, but if someone is willing to do it, it will certainly do the trick! I had many strong experiences, from forgetting who i am for a while, to thinking of dying, to losing sense of my whole body, to seeing incredible (and sometimes scary) things! Some times i just want to do one puff and that's all or a mellow trip along with meditation and that's where a joint is definitely appreciated.

 

[Ulim]

Maybe wonky enhanced leaf too.
She prolly got like 60% of total dmt in one smaolk

 

[Locoboy]

Hope this is not the case. I thought simply dissolving the dmt crystals in lightly heated isopropyl alcohol and then using that on herbs guarantees equal distribution.

 

[TGO]

I understand, Locoboy. There definitely isn't anything wrong with having a healthy amount of fear/respect for the molecule. I have to push through the pre-flight jitters every single time, and sometimes I don't smoke it at all even after preparing all day for it.

Good luck with your future endeavors!

 

[null24]

Hope this is not the case. I thought simply dissolving the dmt crystals in lightly heated isopropyl alcohol and then using that on herbs guarantees equal distribution.

"Guarantee", there is no guarantee of anything,ever. However, yeah, your thinking is pretty solid on that route. Could be down to sensitivity, as others said, or maybe there was a kind of migration of unvaporized spice sort of running away from the heat at the tip of the joint, and it collected at the point your friend hit it. That was my first thought as I read your story, she was a few tokes down the line, so to speak (and maybe one over, lol)

But then I read bigflip:

f dmt wants to have a word with you it doesn't matter the dose it will reach out and pull you in

and I think they hit the nail on the ol noggin.

 

[Locoboy]

Grateful, thank you, wishing you the same, always with the best vibes possible! For sure, respect is definetely important considering the experience with this wonderful substance. You put it nice, pre-flight jitters!!I don't engage with DMT if i haven't done meditation or a breathing technique by wim hof (the Iceman, check him out if you haven't) which calm me down. Unless i take single puffs (kinda like microdosing?) at a music festival or a similar situation.


Null, what you pointed out was interesting, had not thought about it in that way! Either that or this awesome tryptamine really wanted to have a word with the girl. In any case, she is really scared to try it again, she said she is done with it . Well, dmt, like any other substance is not for everyone.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

The DMT can recrystallise along the joint, so the last puff is much stronger than the first.