suggestions for smalls steps into changa

[explorer7]

I finally received 700mg of Changa
Not made by myself but from a trusted source

I have many, many mushroom journeys under my belt
Usually 1g of Syrian Rue (water extraction) with 1g - 2g of Cubensis Mushroom
My primary interest is not seeing visuals but being transformed, healed, enlightened

I want to take small steps into changa and not get blown away or breakthough

Was thinking of doing 10mg with a small pipe, just take a very short hit.

What do you think?

Open to all advice
Blessings

 

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I finally received 700mg of Changa
Not made by myself but from a trusted source

I have many, many mushroom journeys under my belt
Usually 1g of Syrian Rue (water extraction) with 1g - 2g of Cubensis Mushroom
My primary interest is not seeing visuals but being transformed, healed, enlightened

I want to take small steps into changa and not get blown away or breakthough

Was thinking of doing 10mg with a small pipe, just take a very short hit.

What do you think?

Open to all advice
Blessings

whats the blend consist of, like the herbs, harmalas (plant or extracted), and the ratio of dmt to herb?

 

[explorer7]

I was told ratio was 1:1
it looks like mint found in a tea bag (does caapi leaves look like mint)
but to be honest I don't know

 

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ok, 1:1, load 20-25mg of the blend and smoke that.

That'll equate to 10-12mg of DMT.

When you smoke it, just knick the top of the herb pile, get it cherry'd, and drag the cherry REAL slow, snails pace. That'll ensure that you burn very little DMT and that the cherry will act moreso as a vape as it burns further n' further.

Deep hits, hold for 15+ seconds or as long as you humanly can between each hit. Or if you can finish the toke in one entire big hit, that would be even more effective.

 

[olympus mon]

I wouldn't worry about weighing your dose with changa. Just load a pipe with a solid bowl full and use size of hit to achieve a gradual increase of effects. Even with a bong you can gently test the waters by adjusting size of hit while loading too little has its own short comings that are easily avoided.
Happy travels!
Om'

 

[explorer7]

Thank you Tattavamasi and Olympus
This advice is exactly what I was looking for
Will report back

 

[olympus mon]

I would also suggest using a water pipe or bong with changa. I don't know why but I have had issues with dry pipes not administering the dmt equally as it does the harmalas. I know this sounds strange and TBH I don't know why this is but its happened more than one time and since then I can tell a big difference in DMT potency when working with one of my changa's I know very well in a dry pipe Vs. a water pipe.

 

[explorer7]

Olympus, will def use a water bong on this one

If I drink .8-1g of a water infusion of Syrian Rue before the changa,
will that technically slow down the onset of the changa considerably?
or will it intensify the onset?

i ask because I didn't make this changa, so I don't want to get surprised
by being shot like a cannon into hyper-space.
I tried that with 5meo-DMT, i was holding on for dear life ... way to nerve wrecking

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Just take a small puff first. You'll be okay. 5meo is a different ball game, so I hear. I'd leave out the rue tea until you feel comfortable, but that's just my preference.

Changa is fairly gentle, imo.

 

[explorer7]

Thank you Acacia

I'm feeling ready! :thumb_up:

 

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Very sound advice from above.

As oly said, you could just load a mini water bong/waterpipe with a cone, take smaller rips until you feel your immersed enough.

If this blend you got is indeed 1:1 and does have a reasonable harmala % throughout, then the need for syrian rue tea isn't really needed, the changa 'should' be significantly slower than freebase.

And definitely dont consume rue tea before smoking hehe. Drinking a decent dose of rue tea then smoking DMT - you got to be careful there, while being pretty slow on the comeup; it can surprise you and last for a significant amount of time -tea reallly extends it, and you might be immersed longer than you'd like. And on top of that, it can/will be every bit as intense.

 

[3rdI]

if the idea of slightly more accurate doses appeals then i have one of THESE.

sometimes bong bowls flair up all at once:twisted:

 

[explorer7]

I was just told by my friend that the "changa" I was given is not
actually change buy Enhanced Leaf!!!
I just saved myself an insane surprise this evening.

Having read so much about the added benefits of changa, i have no
interest in taking the enhanced leaf :?:

 

[3rdI]

Having read so much about the added benefits of changa, i have no
interest in taking the enhanced leaf :?:

you really should, EL is just as epic as Changa

 

[explorer7]

can enhanced leaf be "changa-tized"?

i'm open to any suggestions on how to make the enhanced leaf have
a slower onset, and more personal experience (similar to what i read about changa).
not looking to get my head blown off

 

[3rdI]

just take some harmalas before the EL, sniff, smoke, vape, drink, plug, whatever you fancy, just get some into your system

dont be fooled into thinking that Changa is all kindness and light, it is also very efficient at destroying monkeys

 

[explorer7]

dont be fooled into thinking that Changa is all kindness and light, it is also very efficient at destroying monkeys

interesting 8)

so say 1g of powdered syrian rue (water extract) ... and then say 20 mg of enhanced leaf?
would that slow that whole thing down?

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

This may be a stupid question, but what exactly is the difference between Changa and Enhanced Leaf? I've been using the terms interchangeably.

 

[explorer7]

i think enhanced leaf has no harmalas in it
changa has harmalas in it

but ask olympus who I think is very well versed in this area

 

[DansMaTete]

enhanced leaf = leaf + DMT
and
changa = enhanced leaf + harmalas