super cloudy naphtha but low yield goo

[The Automator]

Hi, swim is trying first extraction and having a problem. Searched and coning up short. This is what they said they did.

250g acrb from hawaii
Vinegar+distilled water = 1.1 liter @ ph 2.5
4x acid boils with above specs
Reduced those to about 800ml
Filtered all boils and reduced combined boils.

Added lye to ph 12.5. While still hot added 125ml or naphtha.
shook around and separated quickly. Waited 10 minutes between mixing.
Almost non existent emulsion layer. Did this 7 times.

Decanted as much naphtha as possible after waiting for full separation.
Was completely clear at first. They said they blew on the naphtha and
It turned from cloudy to very milky white.

After sitting at room temp with lid on nothing was happening so it went into a very good freezer.
After a day checked and white film coating jar but that's it. Poured still milky naphtha into clean jar.
The white sort of film starting melting quickly into goo and not much at all of it. Very hard to work with.

Naphtha also stinks badly but swim has never smelled spice before so could be the smell. They tried recrystallizing the goo and waiting for doesn't seem like much is happening although again the naphtha gets very cloudy.

Tried 2 more pulls and both are super milky cloudy. Swim wants to know if anyone has seen this before.
Disregard bottom sentence phone is having problems. Thanks!




Naphtha also stinks very badly like the soup. Swim has never tried

 

[The Automator]

Swim doesn't care about crystals its concern of low yield with super milky naphtha.

 

[dxmroid]

I've had the same thing happen to me on my last extraction

All steps were done carefully but still ended up with low yield

There is nothing wrong with goo but such a low yield means something is not right
Unfortunately we can't discuss bark sources but I feel that a few members such as you and I
Got the same stuff and I fear it may be from baby trees that have not fully developed
A sufficient dmt makeup

On your next try I recommend not using the full batch but maybe try with
50 or 100g first....

Good luck and let us know how it goes

 

[MagicGing]

I doubt it would theoretically make a difference but you could try preciping at room temp over a day or 3

 

[The Automator]

Swim has update. One pull that sat at room temp for 24 hours has noticeable stuff that looks like drops of oil in it. After freezing its goo for sure.

Actually got an ok amount.of.goo.from freeze precipitation but hard to get. Tried to smoke some after drying and very harsh but body buzz that's it.

The thing that bothers swim.is how.milky white the naphtha is. After searching haven't seen amy pics that look like this.

If anyone would like to chat please hit me up and ill let swim know. Remember I can't respond in pm. Ill.check.out chat on here as well. Regards and thanks!

Swim is really looking forward to trancension but seems out pf reach now. :'(

 

[The Automator]

The goo is also very harsh. Its unsmokeable even after recrystallization... ouch. Ill tell.swim.to.let it sit.longer.

The thing that really bothers swim is how bad it smells in the naphtha. Not so much after its goo bit tastes just like that bad smell and its not a pleasant smell at all. From what I've read this isn't normal.

 

[k3nnyw]

it took me at least 4 recrystallizations with 2 different solvents with acrb and about 4 days until crystals finally formed. i also scratched some of the waxy parts of the petri dish while drying so theres more seeds for the crystals to grow i've scraped them up and i got a flaky white crystally wax, but i chopped it up and some of it has gooified again and i'm still waiting for them to dry into a powder. i guess we just have to be patient lol.

 

[SWIM1969]

That's basically what this other persons extraction looked like. I think its booty bark tbh. A/B is very simple procedure and actually kind of hard to mess up when you have ph meter and even if not when you follow a tek with exact amounts of everything.

This goo the person tried that looks the same made them choke badly even lightly heated and smelled/tasted absolutely horrible. The worst part didn't do anything really. Changa may be better but breakthrough is the ultimate goal here.

OP's friend and my friend are in same boat.

 

[ZenSpice]

Add another to the '4+ days of messing with goo and multiple solvents' crew (via MHRB).

Never happened before, learning a lot about different solvents in the process though. Just waiting on some heptane to turn up in the next few days. I'm hoping this will assist in crystallization more than bloody lighter fluid and low odour white spirits has with this gunk thus far :?

 

[joshisom]

how much did you pull o0verall and how many pulls did you do
also id be using much more naphtha to pull like 250ml

 

[olympus mon]

I often get the cloudiness on my final pulls. Just evap the Naptha and you will have a good yield of sticky jungley DMT, its harder to work with due to the tackiness but just as active and potent as the rest.

I always save all the NPS after pouring off in the end and do a long evap of the 4 pulls NPS, you would be surprised how much there is in there that wont precip out in the freezer. Its waxy sticky dmt but same same. Just keep it separate from you purty crystals so they dont get all mixed up and when using the sticky stuff weigh it out as it tends to be much more dense and deceiving if eye balling the doses.

 

[ZenSpice]

Handy info Olympus, thanks. :thumb_up:

I'm going to use last of my LPD for some re-x of the goo, continue to use the HPD for extraction and try out the heptane for a final wash on whatever goo I may have left, along with perhaps re-x of the total yield combined.

I just hope it is a bit less rocky than more recent happenings. Always had smooth sailing up to this point but was messing with salt and magnesium sulphate. Found myself in unknown waters for sure hahaha

 

[moniker]

I had the same thing with acacia. I think it's looks can be deceiving and "cloudy" is not a clear indication that anything major is happening like with mimosa.

 

[null24]

Hmm, weird, guys. Just did a second extraction on HA ACRB t that previously yielded a fair amount of wavy goo, that btw although being a high ph, was not harsh one bit, after a two hour smoking session with enhanced mullien , only had slight burning on my lips, and I did not re x it
Anyway, so yeah, preformed an extract on the same batch of bark, with more rigorous initial conditions than the first two, which each yielded bn 1 &2 percent. Only thing changed was no freeze thaw, the bark was shredded by hand, addition of kosher sea in measured, poured in, Sr my Sig) and evaporated instead of freezing.
The naphtha was cloudy like milk and we were excited. I decanted from an hdpe2 jug into a glass vessel since I was haVing difficulty setting through out, and accidentally poured some of the soup down the drain
:thumb_dow
But had gotten at least half of the nps out, and still had t two basters full to pull anyway, pulled 4 times, filling the , probably got half the nps from pull one.
evaporated, and...notHing. a thin layer of crystal clear goo scraped up one good dose of our free base, oil, looking exactly like a good cocaine pull, but one.
Gave it to my friend, she needs it more than me,
I put it down to that but she wants and needs healing too, we actually got distracted as we were decanting by putting intention into the soup.
So,wtf? I'm Confounded.

 

[The Automator]

Thanks for all the replies. Swim was wrong about the yield he thinks its ok. Have only done 3 pulls and wasted a bit of goo at first. I do agree it probably weighs much more than fluff or small xtals. This goo is sort of a yellowish clear color even after re-exing and is very sticky. There's no sludge or anything else in the naphtha when re-exing. Is that odd? Also going to try more pulls.

The biggest problem swim had was actually trying to use it. Was very harsh so couldn't even get a good rip going. Also need a better pipe. Going to try to make changa with it and see how it goes. Any other tips on actually using the goo?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Any other tips on actually using the goo?

you can wipe a dab of it onto a dried herb, and either fold in half or sandwich it.

also i found a really, really fine-mesh pipe screen that works for holding jim-jam (even when it turns to liquid - although hash oil still passes through it, but ime hash oil will even pass through herbs).

 

[The Automator]

Does it totally make you choke like that and overall just taste very disgusting even just barely vaping it? I know it shouldn't. SWIM is losing quite a bit of it simply trying to get it off the razor onto something else like herb etc. Too sticky. Will wait a bit to see if it hardens up at all.

Its a learning experience and SWIM thanks you for the great wealth of info here and for the great, humble, and supportive community.

 

[ZenSpice]

Having had nice white crystals that smoke smooth, this is comparably not worth the effort (imo, of course) of working with.

Hopefully in a week (max) I will report back on this thread on how well I find heptane assists in my efforts to turn yellow goo (and some crayon stuff also) into some nice smooth smoking xtals (will be doing sodium carbonate wash ala cyb, using heptane) :thumb_up:

Maybe you will beat me to the punch with a solution hehehe

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

it shouldn't really be that harsh or gaggy, ime. perhaps you are burning it?

 

[hobobrown]

Sounds like what happened to me the first time I extracted. Turns out that it was the bark itself. Tried a different supplier and had extremely different results. Matter of fact, I had a lot of dmt precip along with a lot of nmt, but the dmt content seemed high enough to almost cancel out the gooey stuff. I ended up with a very moist waxy white dmt/nmt chunks that eventually dried and was able to chop up with blade into powder. I think the ratio of dmt:nmt can greatly vary in ACRB.