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starway6

starway6

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I am using evaporation now to get my acacia crystals and noticed that i am getting white very dry [fine powder] when scraping it from dish..
Im asuming it is very fine dmt crystals.. but dont see it this fine very often..
I used smaller thinner bark peices this time..maybe limb bark?
Anyway has anyone ever seen dmt crystals fine as powdered sugar before after scraping???
 
Yes.. well after scraping it up it apears almost like flour ..
I think this may be from using the smallest thinnest bark peices for extraction..
Maybe acacia stem bark has less dmt?
Durring evaporation crystals stick to sides of glass dish like it should ..its just when scraped up ..this batch is soo fine like flour..
I guess ill have to test it soon..
 
starway6 said:
Yes.. well after scraping it up it apears almost like flour ..
I think this may be from using the smallest thinnest bark peices for extraction..
Maybe acacia stem bark has less dmt?
Durring evaporation crystals stick to sides of glass dish like it should ..its just when scraped up ..this batch is soo fine like flour..
I guess ill have to test it soon..
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The source of the DMT would have no effect on crystal size. Orion is right, the speed and temperature at which the solvent is evaporated determines crystal size. I believe the concentration of the DMT/solvent solution prior to evaporation may also have an effect.
 
I tryed a smsall amount of this fine powder and it was pretty weak?
Maybe my use of the ;;;[smaller thinner bark peices]]? was reason for this?..
right after that...And a little disapointed i lit up some 7x salvia for first time in more than three months and bam!!.. [i was somewhere else!
I sudenly found myself standing before some kind of royalty like a queen or king in a huge castle!
I forgot how instantly visual and mind bendingly powerfull salvia divinorum is!
I also felt more like ..[a state of mind] [than a physical human being!..and as always the ancients were nearby..
Compairing salvia and DMT...I can see why most like DMT...salvia is a very serious mind trip!
Ive heard combining the two .. sometimes works well..
 

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In images above this stuff looked like flour after scraping it off glass ..

while evaporating it stuck to glass like crystals ..but didnt really have any typical crystal structure or shape looking at it with a loop..

I did this extraction just like my last ones i put photos of on forum and they were nice strong crystals!

I suspect that i used .. mostly the smaller thinner bark peices].. that were easier to cut up and powder.. and they may not have had much alcaloid in them?
The thinnest outer bark skins may have been weak?...
 
Entheogenerator said:
starway6 said:
I tryed a smsall amount of this fine powder and it was pretty weak?
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How much is a "small amount"? Did you weigh your dose?
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Didnt weigh it.. but im shure it was atleast 12 to 15 mgs or more and the effects were weak and the amount of vapor was small and thin .and i vaporized it right...it wasnt burned..
It may have been NMT?
 
Powders are just very fine particles. So DMT which has the appearance of a fine powder just consists of tiny crystals.

It could be that it contains NMT, but I would doubt it contains any significant amount judging by the consistency (powder rather than oil).

The size and density of DMT crystals can vary tremendously. I'm guessing that the crystals produced by this extraction may simply be less dense than those of your last extraction. 12 mg taken from one sample of DMT will not necessarily look like the same amount as 12 mg from the next sample. This is one of the primary reasons that many Nexus members, myself included, strongly suggest weighing each dose with an accurate digital scale.
 
Entheogenerator said:
Powders are just very fine particles. So DMT which has the appearance of a fine powder just consists of tiny crystals.

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The size and density of DMT crystals can vary tremendously. I'm guessing that the crystals produced by this extraction may simply be less dense than those of your last extraction. 12 mg taken from one sample of DMT will not necessarily look like the same amount as 12 mg from the next sample........


This is true..This was only my 4th pull from only 110grams of bark..

Also the fact that i chose only the ..[smallest thinnist acacia bark chips] from 2000 grams of raw bark...... [to make grinding and powdering easier]...may be why the crystals are so small?

On My next 4th pull.. im going to weigh a proper dose of product and then try it..because eyeballing a 12 to 20 mg size pile..may may prove to be ..WAY less.. weight than it apears to be...

I still think that diferent parts of the acacia tree may not produce the same amount of dmt equally...concidering .. [the stems..verses.. [the lower trunk or root areas]?

I may have been using a lot of stem bark this time??
And ..[very thin bark strips].. may contain almost no dmt?

I will weigh the next dose on pull 4...
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I don't necessarily agree as you can see in these said pics there totaly differant results in size of crystals but there from

the same pull I thought maybe one dish with the small extals could be down to some dish soap residue left on the glass

but I'm only guessing !



 
Earthwalker said:
I don't necessarily agree as you can see in these said pics there totaly differant results in size of crystals but there from

the same pull I thought maybe one dish with the small extals could be down to some dish soap residue left on the glass

but I'm only guessing !



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No its not residue at all..I cleaned the dish first..
They are small crystals because.. if i swirl the jar of napatha i can clearly see thousands of them swirling around in the napatha..
I test melted some of the crystal..and it melted and looked like an oil like dmt is...
I may not have used a large enough dose that time..
 
This is pull no 4 and the photos are taken in macro mode of the tiny crystals ive been getting...
Pull one and two had a little yellow fats in them... but ..
[.. in pull three and four]... the napatha quickly turned almost clear!.. using cybes hot water bath on napatha pulls also shaking jar several times on each pull and re heating water bath..
This method workes great to get cleaner acacia fat free pulls using evaporation as i am using now!

I havent tested a proper sized dose yet.. but discovered the dose i tryed the other day looked like a 20 or 25 mg pile.. but upon weighing it turned to be only 5 or 6 mgs!

The photos below show how clear my napatha got and a very good picture of the crystals in dish and jar..
In a photo below you can see jar turned sideways with many tiny crystals and see how some are locking on to the glass..
This stuff looks and acts like dmt its just TINY! and i think thats why it doesnt weigh much...
I will try a pre measured dose at atleast 25 or 20 mgs and i will know then..
These are the smallest lightest crystals ive ever extracted...!
 

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After trying this extraction of fine crystals several diferent ways i think its inactive~!
Yes inactive...?
I dont know why unless its the wrong type of bark?..or maybe the smaller ..thninner peices of bark i used this time was void of dmt?
Im contacting my suplyer about this issue and will try to return for a diferent batch of bark..
Maybe most of this batch of bark is good?..the larger peices?..not shure?
I vaped about 40mgs of this powdered sugar like fine crystals and at first..it felt like dmt was starting but experiance quickly petered out?!
I know there may be temptation to mix inactive bark in an order is there but i wont jump to asumptions yet...
Using the same extraction methods as ive used with good results in recent past this stuff acts like most dmt extractions.. but the crystals are fine and i only got a very little yellow goo in first two pulls..[acacia confusa usually has much more yellow and oils then that]....then napatha became very clear at pull 3 and for several extractions after producing the tiny crystals as seen in photos in posts above...
Dont know why this doesnt do anything ..unless the finer thinner bark strips may not contain much alcaloid?
 
Personally starway I think the pour off system is flawed !!

For one when you evap this naps down to a concentrated amount you're just tipping most of the dmt / oils away ! If there's

anything about acacia we've learnt it is the yellow oils are just as good as the white crystals ,sometimes they add to the potency

and as endlessness always told me one thing never throw anything away !!
 
Earthwalker said:
Personally starway I think the pour off system is flawed !!

For one when you evap this naps down to a concentrated amount you're just tipping most of the dmt / oils away ! If there's

anything about acacia we've learnt it is the yellow oils are just as good as the white crystals ,sometimes they add to the potency

and as endlessness always told me one thing never throw anything away !!
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I took 5 napatha pulls total...and poured a little off only on the first pull that was a little yellow..
I saw no need to pour off any of the 4 remaining pulls above in photos..see how clear the napatha was?

I think the fine small bark peices were from thin branches or maybe not even acacia at all?
After vaping 40 mgs of this stuff and no results..I think that shows its inferior bark..
 
Ok I thought you're were using you're pour of method ! sorry I mis understood 😁

I thought if it's precipitating dmt it's dmt I really didn't no that it can be inactive ! I've had my fair share of shithouse bark of late it's

everywhere :thumb_dow proceed with cation !!
 
I can attest to the fact that there are times when some of the yield of a DMT extraction presents as small white crystals, almost like sugar crystals.
These are usually found at the "edge of the pour" after decanting a freeze precipitation step.
They are very pretty, and absolutely potent- hell, its DMT!

The thing is, in the end, its just DMT. Pretty to look at, yes.

Big crystals are more fun to look at, in my humble opinion, because they just are so cool!

And I am impressed by you guys/girls out there that grow those most beautiful crytals found on 'just some xtals' just some xtals - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Keep up the good work!
 
If you're really concerned about the shape of your crystals, redissolve them in naptha and freeze precipitate them out again in a freezer. That should get you slightly nicer crystals.
 
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