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Syrian Rue + Acacia Experience Report

AstralRoots

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As I write this it is 10:52PM and it was around 5PM that I took 2g of rue powder. An hour or so later I consumed another 1 to 2 grams. I then had the brilliant idea of consuming roughly 1.5g of raw acacia root bark. I held it in my mouth, allowed for the bitterness to saturate my senses, and about 15 minutes later bravely sawlloed the lot of it.

I awkwardly chuckle upon the heels of that first paragraph as I had no f'ing clue what I was getting myself into. I am no stranger to these sorts of experiences however this was the first time I embarked upon such a journey solo. The Truth of the matter is the medicine showed up in a form that is/was in some ways incomparable to the experiences i had in "ceremonies". In the solo format I was able to FULLY allow for the medicine to do its workings on my mind, emotions, body, and Soul.

Approximately 30 minutes after swallowing the sacrament that is called acacia confusa which was preceded by the great being that is syrian rue, I noticed some interesting closed eye light duty fractal like patterns. I thought to myself: golly gee, this is easy and pretty. I was completely oblivious to the immensity that was about to take place.

As I was laying down on my back breathing, sort of struggling with the plight of my life up until this point, I was informed that it was time to PURGE. And by purge I mean PURGE. The complexity of emotions that ensued were unlike any previous experience I recall. Though no doubt the medicine of the moment is generally going to be the ''most profound''. What was coming out of me emotionally, energetically, and physically was truly severe.

What ails one these medicines can most certainly assist in changing however as the saying goes Truth Hurts. As a degenerate full of shame, guilt, despair, grief, agony, and the rest of it I can not with a single iota of my being blame the medicine for delivering to me precisely what I need/deserve. Whatever these plants are or are not I would postulate that they are ''bringers'' of Truth/Wisdom Itself. And no doubt not everyone is remotely prepared to a) see the truth let alone b) accept it. The c) as was imparted to me is APPLYING the Truth.

After the purge, the medicine came on in full effect. It was very relatable to past experiences with B. caapi+ mimosa tea in ceremonial format though approximately a third less intensity wise visually speaking. I was close to consuming more medicine as I was partially called however chose to refrain at that time out of mostly attention/care to my physical conduit. I experienced the gamut of human emotions, enjoyed some really cool fractal patterns of mild rainbow luminescence, was put in touch with my inner child, reflected upon every single thing of meaning to my infantile mind and was absolutely challenged/rattled to my core.

"Grandmother"s can be fierce, fiery, blunt, and are the types that do not accept no as an answer. Additionally there can be mercy, grace, compassion, and love however it is my deduction that these less severe qualities must be deserved by the individual. One way to put it is how can one expect anything great if one comes to the QUEEN with ''clogged pipes? Meaning poor diet, poor choices, lack of prep etc. I received my fair dose of all that was offered and am left with a critical opportunity of either allowing for the Truth received to penetrate to the marrow of my Soul or continue on a cosmic loser. I acknowledge the harshness with which I mentate however I also acknowledge the simple truth of the matter. If one is engaging in lie as a conscious degenerate on a moment to moment basis well then I would suggest it is no stretch of the imagination to distill that such being is worthy of such title.

All in all I am immensely thankful and glad that I chose to consume these plants tonight. I also realize these practices are no light matter and shouldn't be messed with without serious awareness of what could and might likely arise. I would never recommend it to anyone without serious consideration to one's state in mind, body, and spirit prior to absortopion. I would however recommend Rue alone to almost anyone short of the counter indicators in right dosage and right research. The addition of something like acacia takes it to a meteorically different level that demands serious willingness of the sojourner to potentially face/see some in some cases cataclysmically horrific content matter.

Back to the purge: it felt as if whatever the f has been inside of me that has been bent upon violating Truth, Nature, and Creation wanted to get extracted however it was made very clear that it wouldn't leave until I was good and ready for it to. This sounds really weird but it certainly had exorcism vibes. Jaw completely ripped open, tears flowing from an extreme inner feeling of pain, coughing up phlegm into my bucket which I am VERY glad I had handy BTW, prayers of assistance/understanding, clinching at times to my blanket or body as if I was giving birth or something, and things I probably can't put words to or recall.

Thank God I had a guiding Light with me that helped keep me centered along the way as it is crystal clear that one could completely lose their minds in these processes. Numerous times an angel let's say helped me stay within the appropriate conditions to receive the ''darshan'' (teaching) that was emerging from seemingly out of no where. No doubt these plants have certain compounds which science says are this and do that however personally they (science/academia) cannot remotely adequately explain the complete profundity of what they can generate in a humans consciousness. At any rate, the TLDR is simply: 4g rue + 1.5g acacia equals HOLY SHIT, GOOD LORD, UNREAL, THANK YOU, I'M SORRY, and I'll see you next time with a much greater degree of respect or otherwise I won't knock on your door at all.

Forgive me for the lack of editing. It's a thought-stream in the wake of an indescribable experience unique to me. Oh, one las thing: THE STARS. I am so lucky to live in a dwelling that has large east/south windows that allow for a great view of the cosmos. Good grief I literally couldn't even transceive the amount of awe wonder light that is there 24/7 yet goes unacknowledged by so so many people. Orion was perfectly visible through a single pane of 3.5/3.5 glass after situating myself properly as to frame it as if i was taking a photograph. My jaw pretty much fell off of my face at that point which I had to later pick up off of the floor and re-attach. Good thing it didn't land in my purge bucket which was oddly more full of fluid that I can make sense of.

I would also like to mention that I spoke in tongues for the first time in my life, I shook/vibrated my body in ways that I do not recall ever doing, found myself toning/sighing significantly, yawning in ways unexplainable, and overall just totally losing it in the best of ways. I can be extremely hard on myself as is probably obvious in my sharing's however I can also allow for the feminine aspects of my being to do what they'd like to do as well. The false notion of that life is supposed to be all easy peezy and alone joyous was made clear to me in this experience. The reality principle can be brutal and must be faced head on if one is to succeed in learning the lessons that they are here to master from my view.
 
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Well that was unbelievable. I question sharing in the way that I did however it is what it is, it's out there. As personal and seemingly detailed as that was I realize this morning that some additional aspects transpired that I certainly wouldn't share as it's even more personal.

It's hard for me to believe that such seemingly small amounts of these two plants can yield such immense responses in ones psyche. The amount of acacia I consumed which I did masticate with my teeth first was so seemingly minute I had not the faintest idea that it'd yield such a full on experience as I had.

I note an interesting contrast between what seem to be my own faculties speaking to me versus what might be called the spirit of the plant. Oneself indeed can have a great deal of wisdom/insight to bestow upon oneself through inquiry in mind alone as seemingly strange as that may sound. Though whatever shows up peculiarly "out of no where" like a bolt of lightning later disappearing back to "no where" (the entheogenic experience) has and continues to be a paramount part of my existence.

I didn't mention the throwing of light on the loving relationships in my life and how awfully important they are. I reflected upon some relationships that could use some watering and repair whilst also reflecting upon some that could be let go. I don't want to smoke tobacco anymore as earlier I read a post here that suggested how detrimental it can be. I have an altered approach to other relationships with different plants and am aiming to "go deeper" in the forthcoming evenings with a different level of purity in mind/body. As long as I have the same guiding light I fear not getting into too deep of waters.

Could anyone speak to a sort of nuanced question? Can the reverse tolerance of rue generate a more intense experience in combining with acacia overtime? Meaning if one is taking 2.5g rue am and pm and possibly even more rue at PM can the amount of acacia become lesser to receive similar/greater effect? I realize through participating in back to back aya ceremonies that the second night having embarked upon the first prior resulted in a much stronger experience.

I also wanted to reflect upon the portion of my share surrounding the strong movement to sit up right and purge. I was quite literally told that it's time to purge. I could feel it in the depths of my lower chakras as I arose from my laying meditation. Some people might receive zero effect from taking doses of aya their first and even second times even though alkaloidally they are consuming the exact dose another will get catapulted by. I've heard people taking it two or more times before finally getting moved their third time or whatever. What's up with this? Has anyone put any thought into this odd phenomenon?

I bring it up as what if I didn't have that strong purge, I wonder if my experience would have been colored differently. Was that purge necessary to clear some stuck energy to be a more capable instrument to be tuned by the medicine? Ultimately it doesn't matter and I trust in the intelligences at play but it is certainly interesting to contemplate further.


Take care all
 
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I would additionally like to request insight/advice around, again, the portion of my share involving my purge and mentioning od excorcism vibes. I rarely ask for advice on life but feel moved to do so in this matter.

Can anyone offer experiental insight either through self work or work with others surrounding such deep, for lack of better words, changing of qualities within an individual that may be so deeply rooted that such generation of change can be overwhelmingly difficult? I mean.. yikes! It's serious business.

I've purged several times in the past 12 years through plant medicines. Each time with aya (6 sessions), each time with bufo, several times with wachuma. Each time I never felt like I got "it" out. Last night was unique as I alas was offered a little bit more insight into the matter through both the detail of the energetic experience itself and some offered words.

Whatever it is i most certainly would like for it to change. Though I can also see that it's a process as the following morning feels of a different color thanks to the precious nights journey.

Thanks for the consideration.
 
I'm happy for you that you had this experience! thanks for sharing.

I'm sure you have a lot to think about and a lot to implement into your everyday life. That’s the most important part of the experience :)
 
Something that struck me is that 4g of rue could, by itself, bring about a deep and challenging experience. It seems that your addition of that small amount of "thinking of each other" tree was sufficient to throw quite the light onto a situation already brimming with transformative potential.
If one is engaging in lie as a conscious degenerate on a moment to moment basis
Not sure if this was a typo, but in choosing 'lie' over 'life' it's a matter of getting the f out, eh? :)

Your description of the stars really grabbed me since, this evening, I was able to show my youngest child Jupiter and its Galilean moons for the first time, through my telescope. Orion stood on the horizon, bearing witness with his arms stretched up towards the great planet. Somehow, looking up at these stars unites us.

Above all, I'm really grateful that you've shared this experience with us, riding out the humbling intensity as you did. Wishing you every strength in integrating those messages meaningfully into your everyday life. <3

PS - repeated rue use does indeed appear to build its power, whether this is inverse tolerance or, to put it another way, learning its language.
 
Something that struck me is that 4g of rue could, by itself, bring about a deep and challenging experience. It seems that your addition of that small amount of "thinking of each other" tree was sufficient to throw quite the light onto a situation already brimming with transformative potential.

Not sure if this was a typo, but in choosing 'lie' over 'life' it's a matter of getting the f out, eh? :)

Your description of the stars really grabbed me since, this evening, I was able to show my youngest child Jupiter and its Galilean moons for the first time, through my telescope. Orion stood on the horizon, bearing witness with his arms stretched up towards the great planet. Somehow, looking up at these stars unites us.

Above all, I'm really grateful that you've shared this experience with us, riding out the humbling intensity as you did. Wishing you every strength in integrating those messages meaningfully into your everyday life. <3

PS - repeated rue use does indeed appear to build its power, whether this is inverse tolerance or, to put it another way, learning its language.

I noted that typo also and left it as I had never noted that Life minus F equals lie. I am into phonetics, etymology, and Synchromysticism (I am taken a aback hat I spelled that right the first time heh) which led me to keep it as it came through. You nail it in the only way out of a lie is to get the f out of it. When one factors in complex trauma, complex emotions, and the rest of it it isn't always an easy task clearly.

The medicine has been with me today which hasn't been an easy day by any means. Work was a doozy as was having to continue the purgative process for lack of better descriptor. You're entirely correct however oddly enough each and every time I dosed 3-5g of rue alone after a dozen or so plus sessions nothing really happened. I asked myself: Did the potency return from to the aether from which it came? What could possibly yield such starkly contrastive experiences upon consumption of the same dose / same batch as all previous sessions?

Perhaps it's that the acacia was needed to be added as I had received what I needed from the Rue alone. Can't say for sure but am certainly happy that last night went well even though it was beyond difficult to have to accept brutal truth. The quote of the sage delighting in the same waters in which the schizophrenic drowns comes to mind in life from time to time particularly when brought to states psychologically which those before me too have delved. Despite the challenge of my life I have to count my lucky stars for so far having the capacities of not ending up in an unfortunate state which others have sadly landed in. I used to know one who had a single entheogenic experience which caused him to completely lose his mind.

No doubt you're right. A researcher I've studied mentioned that if Orion for instance came out once per year the lot of us would come out to enjoy it. But since it's out every night very few ever acknowledge it whatsoever not to mention city lights which dilute the brilliance of the planets/stars profoundly. Thanks for sharing as I was too focused on Jupiter for quite some time last night. Have you ever noted the phenomenon of a planet/star "moving" after staring without blinking for more than several seconds or sometimes less? It is bizarre especially when framed by my window which wasn't moving at all whilst Jupiter went on to move in varying patterns of up, down, left, right etc.

Thank you for your support and encouragement. I'm thankful for be a member of this community.
 
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