syrian rue...

[proto-pax]

I don't have a food processor or blender to powderize my syrian rue, my question is, would it still function as a maoi? If so, would how much would I need to take, and how long would it take for the maoi action to take effect? I'm a 185 lb 6'3" male.

 

[endlessness]

mortar and pestle or some improvised version of it.. or put it in a bag and smash the bag with a hammer. You need to break it up at least a little bit or it wont be so effective.

around 3 - 4g is good dosage. boil 3x, filtering each time and adding fresh water, then put the 3 liquids together, reduce to manageable amount (like, say, 50ml per dose) and drink it up. It tastes nasty. Eat some fresh ginger before and after to help a bit with nausea if you want.

and start researching into extracting it for the future, if you are interested

good luck

 

[proto-pax]

Could I not just eat them after pulverizing them?

 

[BananaForeskin]

I've heard that you can still achieve MAOI inhibition by just eating the crushed seeds... but I've NEVER heard it recommended, given that there are so many extra toxins you will be ingesting by that method. Probably the most flattering phrase I've heard of to describe the extra effects is "delirious headrushes" always coupled with an extra dose of nausea.

 

[proto-pax]

That's strange, I've had upwards of 5 grams (though not crushed and not used for any potentiating) and experienced little nausea. I think I may just extract this batch since it doesn't seem to be all that hard. Off to grocery store tomorrow.

 

[BananaForeskin]

It's not hard. Just cook 'em a few times, and throw in some vinegar if you want (unless you're referring to a manske... can't speak there).

And endlessness sure is right, a couple of strong plastic bags and a hammer are all you need to crush them. I have a food processor, and never felt like it was enough of a bother to warrant bringing out the big guns.

 

[sigmundfreuid]

Or you can take your pepper grinder(pepper mill) ,empty it ,fill it up with rue seeds and grind. It would be wise to buy a good quality grinder
for the future like a Magic Bullet or even better The Blentec
this blender grinds everything even metal.

 

[Dimitrius]

69ron recently wrote:

Why not give plain rue tea a try? Brew it exactly as you brew tea. Add hot water to 2-3 grams of ground rue seeds. Don't boil it and don’t add any acids or anything else. Let it steep for 15 minutes or so. Strain it, removing all the seed solids. Then add citric acid and freebase DMT. That's the method that produces the cleanest experience for SWIM. It's not as good if you boil the rue or add acid to the tea while brewing it. Boiling it or adding acid is a sure way to make inferior rue tea that causes more side effects. Brewed as plain tea, it’s much better than using caapi, in terms of side effects. The trip is different from caapi of course.

Plain rue tea contains harmine, harmaline, and sometimes a ton of harmalol, as well as some other actives.

...just another method to consider.

 

[proto-pax]

So many methods!

 

[camdemonium]

If you wanna get straight to the point, just down the seeds whole, my dog has done this with great success multiple times. The best method is to crush the seeds, which can then be smoked or swallowed, your choice. But my dog tells me that if you want the easy route just down some seeds with a glass of water followed by your tryptamine of choice an hour or two later, and wait for the sparks to fly!
Oh also if you have a pretty weak stomach like my dog, tea will be downright impossible for you to consume, no matter what you boil it down to.

 

[Dream Weaver]

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[q21q21]

SWIM did rue extractions and rolling-boiled whole seeds yielded the same amount as ground seeds. Just boil them good and you don't have to grind them.

 

[proto-pax]

So if I grind up the seeds and then place them in simmering water (around 200 degrees Fahrenheit?) and then strain and drink after 15 minutes we should be ready for lift of with any substance?