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testing how cigarette filter effects DMT vapor...

1Starway7

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This is just an experament... to see how a cigarette filter effects DMT vapor...

Goal is to reduce harmfull impuritys from the vapor while alowing a percentage of cleaner and more pure molecule vapor...

this test could also be done with pot... or anything that can be vaporized....

I guess how you feel after a hit is one way to notice results...
 
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TEST ONE...


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this filter cut down the volume of vapor quite a bit....
 

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This is just an experiment...

About flooding, most evidently. Lets pay attention to the timing:

Semi-DiY Pulse-Heating transformation (based on VaporGenie Classic/Bronze Sherlock)​
2024-Oct-17 7h37
testing low to microdose vape..​
2024-Oct-17 16h51
tar block tested with proven vape...​
2024-Oct-18 2h39​
testing how cigarette filter effects DMT vapor...​
2024-Oct-22 3h18​

What's so wrong about posting in the Extraction - DMT Extraction Paths??

...to see how a cigarette filter effects DMT vapor...

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Goal is to reduce harmful impurities from the vapor while allowing a percentage of cleaner and more pure molecule vapor...

It was also the alleged "intent" in your two preceeding posts, what's different now?

This test could also be done with pot... Or anything that can be vaporized...

Well, i remember addressing the "pot" part of it by creating my « LavaWand » conceptual extension to the VaporGenie on September 1st, 2016... In other words over 8 years ago.

I guess how you feel after a hit is one way to notice results...

Oh i sure remember how that felt all right, but i noticed you've been prompt to reject everything on a basis of forged "reputation" alone. Yet, i ain't even actually posting for *YOU*, instead it's with the hope to cause an eventual audience with an open mind to reflect on similar matters.

1st, don't create a contamination problem only to wonder how to fix it: just drop smoking, which is how i came to later adopt the Pulse Heating strategy, because as i already commented before this will limit secondary & tertiary thermal denaturation. Next, my quasi-symetrical modular design makes it possible to chose between alternate scenarios, more exactly my unidirectional one in this present case. Consequently, having a bowl surrounded by such Hybrid Cores it becomes possible for both to behave in turn as a heat source, then a complementary filter that doubles as a "reclaims" collector. Initially it's better start with the gentle core so to maximize aroma/taste appreciation, then the LAVACapsule is eventually reversed in order to boost its heat source while also performing the reclaim of whatever got purified as it occurs, condensing within the post-vaporization working in particles "filter" mode... That way accumulation is continuously restricted by flipping sides before the golden honey builds up with too much contamination mixed in - which by doing so happens to conveniently skip any post-vaporization purification step(s).

But one can't do this using a Glass Sherlock design, not even a couple wood "tops": Pulse Heating needs to be brief and this requirement implies intense, not the slow/steady thermostatic style. Not to mention a yellow flame (e.g. incomplete "dirty" combustion) won't do anymore. That's why i went full-metal and posted my progress, patiently, expecting that some future hypothetical audience will finally feel ready to consider a challenge to replicate independantly.

This filter cut down the volume of vapor quite a bit...

Even water filtration will cost that sort of penalizing trade-off, which is why i promote dry cooling where fresh-air "PinHoles" à la VapMan combine with sudden volume expansion.
 
it apears this person..... [egzoset].....if he exists....

Talking of teaching lessons it's quite about time YOU start learning to be polite, it's Egzoset with a capital "E". As for existence i already explained i don't write for YOU alone.

So if there's any real topic here it's about this strange hate cult YOU seem so entrenched into. The days are long gone when netiquette referred to the « play nice » rule, so please try it for a change, open your 3rd eye (which doesn't actually exist neither but in YOUR imagination)... And no, the molecules won't sort out magically: just type DMT purification in YouTube and observe what happens. Then guess what, nano-encapsulation kicks in. Déjà vu!

Anyway what you propose to accomplish is much more involving than simply relying on a cheap cigarette filter but YOU won't accept being told by Egzoset the great, the boldly Magnificent and utterly Omnipotent one with a capital "E" -- plus gogo-style shadow-dancers on each side...
Egzoset's Alias - Gogo-Girls - Shadow Dancing [480x170] .PNG

...has no respect for other peoples privacy...

Don't be so CONFUSED, this is NO private place and you already had TWO other threads just like this one where to post updates but no, somehow « Extraction - DMT Extraction Paths » wouldn't cut it and yet YOU are very well aware by now that i have very little to say about DMT, and quite a lot about, euh... Lets quote it verbatim:

...pot... or anything that can be vaporized...

And indeed i know about the problem of tar (etc.) accumulation in vaporized cannabis because i worked on it actively in 2016, even published a picture on my prototype for all to evaluate by merit, not trivial forged "reputations", e.g. via INDEPENDENT DUPLICATION.

I thought we had this setteled yesterday?...

It turns out i thought the same.

Again, you're reversing roles in the house of mirrors. My post on the solution to YOUR present (alleged) challenge was posted only 9 h 14 m before this bizarre dispute began. None of my valid argumentation points were/are ever retained, all YOU care to write about is the YouYouMi talk assorted with insults + threats while that's of no benefit nor any eventual value to nobody here.

Besides, you didn't « ASK » but wished most disrespectfully for me to be BANNED instead. And lets be blaunt about "trouble makers", YOU previously made another obvious attempt just a few weeks ago and *I* notified moderatorship that this wasn't the proper place where to post it - which was agreed upon. So, what i think it is at this present stage just boils down to yet another obscure tactic resulting from the mere sight of my alias besides « Preparations and Methods of Administration
- Other », as this apparently renders you jealous-sick for some mysterious reason...

Too bad i don't have much audience, thanks to toxic interference as YOURS exactly. In any case i ain't going to repeat how my LAVACapsule helps address and possibly even resolve such riddle, expressed via triple sibling threads so far - which is weird enough considering this system's focus ain't on the "other" stuff but DMT quite exactly!!

Please seriously consider the Extraction - DMT Extraction Paths area or some additional specific alternative i may have forgotten about, or at least apply civility principles in your interactions by listening actively to the replies YOU have prompted for initially.

Apparently this trouble making is allowed on the new nexus?

There it goes again...

(n)
 
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Ok, this is starting to get exhausting at this point. I consider the Nexus a place where adults can lead normal, productive conversations on various topics, and for the most part, this is indeed the case. For that reason, I will kindly ask you two to try and be an example of that.

If you can't work together towards a productive and civil conversation without fingerpointing and throwing accusations left and right, I'll kindly ask you both to mutually ignore yourselves by clicking on the other person's profile and then clicking the Ignore button, as seen below:
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Let's be grown ups and not make the Nexus a toxic place.
 
Ok, this is starting to get exhausting at this point. I consider the Nexus a place where adults can lead normal, productive conversations on various topics, and for the most part, this is indeed the case. For that reason, I will kindly ask you two to try and be an example of that.

If you can't work together towards a productive and civil conversation without fingerpointing and throwing accusations left and right, I'll kindly ask you both to mutually ignore yourselves by clicking on the other person's profile and then clicking the Ignore button, as seen below:
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Let's be grown ups and not make the Nexus a toxic place.
Nydex...i have...NEVER... done nothing at all ever to this person except ask him to stop answering my threads....

Ive been on nexus since 2012..and NEVER had a problem with anyone!! /// untill this carrector arrived....

I think this person is mentally ill or something..?

But if hitting ..ignore button... [i didnt know about this button]..... will keep his posts off my threads ..ill gladly do it!

i will try using.... ignore...and see if it works!

I JUST PUSHED THE ...[IGNORE]... BUTTON....! thanks
 
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TEST ONE...


This was removed from 6mgs fb dmt vapor...zoom photo

this filter cut down the volume of vapor quite a bit....
These pictures are something of an surprise, especially considering that this is the result of just 6 mg, it makes me wonder if the method of vaporizing and maybe also the starting material need some attention.

Other than that it seems like some dmt is condensing on the filter, like I said this could be the polymorph that stays longer like an liquid and only crystallizes to a more waxy consistency.

Anyway to really answer your questions in your other thread I think you need some sort of TLC even just on paper to get a clue on what you’re doing.

Good luck
 
These pictures are something of an surprise, especially considering that this is the result of just 6 mg, it makes me wonder if the method of vaporizing and maybe also the starting material need some attention.

Other than that it seems like some dmt is condensing on the filter, like I said this could be the polymorph that stays longer like an liquid and only crystallizes to a more waxy consistency.

Anyway to really answer your questions in your other thread I think you need some sort of TLC even just on paper to get a clue on what you’re doing.

Good luck
Hi ...varallo.. apoligise for the problems ive had latley with .....someone...
But the dmt i vaporized wasnt really cleaned up much..... as i thought it didnt need it...
The vape i used is very efficiant as it was set on 73 watts,,,

Im just trying to capture the fats and impuritys with the filter ...hopefully allowing for a more pure dmt experiance .

[this may not work the way i hope...but still giving it a try...

This is just a little test im doing...

ive just started it will take more time..
cheers...starway7
 
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Ah I understand, it would be interesting to see if a similar type of deposit is found when using very clean DMT, just to exclude an extra variable, also I can imagine that maybe the cleanness of the vape could be a factor that can be excluded. From there testing the residue in filter is the only way to know what is actually filtered out.

Besides the rigor, did you experience any difference, was the vapor smooth or less irritating than normal? How was the inhalation speed influenced and was this a positive change?
 
Ah I understand, it would be interesting to see if a similar type of deposit is found when using very clean DMT, just to exclude an extra variable, also I can imagine that maybe the cleanness of the vape could be a factor that can be excluded. From there testing the residue in filter is the only way to know what is actually filtered out.

Besides the rigor, did you experience any difference, was the vapor smooth or less irritating than normal? How was the inhalation speed influenced and was this a positive change?
I havent inhaled the vapor yet ... but i expect it to be somewhat effective ...if enough dmt molecule gets through...

the vaporizer was very clean.. as i cleaned out the bowl and installed a new mesh screen and set watts from 70 to 73...

Im hoping for a... slightly cleaner gentler high ..if enough of the heavy residuel tar is trapped inside the filter....and staying out of my lungs...

The question is....how much of the dmt active is being traped in the filter in the tar?

I figure if i .....get enough traped residue.... i can later desolve it out of the filter in alcohol....by submerging the filter in grain alcohol.....then evaporate the alcohol untill gone leaving the residue to dry further for couple days.....

after the drying a couple days... there should be.... [circular paterns] ..crystals starting]..... appearing in the material that might give me an idea of how much dmt was trapped in the tar?
if there is no evedence of crystals!!.. this would be good! .. as this means that most of the lighter.... dmt molecules... stayed airborn.... and got pulled through without the impuritys!
 
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[egzoset]

An excuse over this running gag going on since 2010 is in order considering the odd orthograph errors make me suspect this "newbie" member (who joined on Feb 7, 2024) may be the very same multi-id individual who started it from europe, or a disciple of some similar hate cult. I also request that DMT topics should go to their dedicated area(s) instead of flooding a place reserved to items which don't fit for a lack of their own specialized forum, just like cannabis here... Hence my previous observations stand, yet i'm forced to abide to your instructions despite the additional provocations, my pocket being empty with no joker card to play.

[ IGNORE ] it is and please don't make me list the long series of troll trophies left behind in *MY* own dedicated threads! Mister "moderator".

Good day, have fun!! ☮️
 
I havent inhaled the vapor yet ... but i expect it to be somewhat effective ...if enough dmt molecule gets through...

the vaporizer was very clean.. as i cleaned out the bowl and installed a new mesh screen and set watts from 70 to 73...

Im hoping for a... slightly cleaner gentler high ..if enough of the heavy residuel tar is trapped inside the filter....and staying out of my lungs...

The question is....how much of the dmt active is being traped in the filter in the tar?

I figure if i .....get enough traped residue.... i can later desolve it out of the filter in alcohol....by submerging the filter in grain alcohol.....then evaporate the alcohol untill gone leaving the residue to dry further for couple days.....

after the drying a couple days... there should be.... [circular paterns] ..crystals starting]..... appearing in the material that might give me an idea of how much dmt was trapped in the tar?
if there is no evedence of crystals!!.. this would be good! .. as this means that most of the lighter.... dmt molecules... stayed airborn.... and got pulled through without the impuritys!
will get back to you when test moves along...
 
I finally tryed a very low dose. through the filter.. and it was very light and near tastless...
It also gave me a nice borderline high that lasted about 30 minutes! ...and that was only from 3 drops of spice tincture...vaped after all the alcohol was evaporated out...[equaling only about 4 or 5 mgs]
I noticed the ...[much reduced volume of vapor]... ... was tasteless ...and i didnt have guilty feeling that i may have inhaled a bunch of impuritys ...anyway this was a low to micro dose... vapor was light and much cleaner...
It still had reasonable effect... even after going through the filter trap...
but...cant expect much from such a small dose...

now a total ...with first test... of 8 or 10mgs vaped through this one filter...and filter still has room for more

just dont know for shure how much molecule may?...be getting wasted?

filter pictures below plus my.... low to micro dose vape...very tiny bowl ttubing very thin...
 

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