Citta
Skepdick
ms_manic_minxx: Elves, fairies, Golems, Trolls, aliens, demons, gods, deities, archetypes, self transforming machine elves - whatever. People call them different things. You see where I'm going? Oh yes bro, you've said hi.
About this whole mess with the DMT elves being real or whatever, does it really matter? I think that, on the individual scale, it is much more important to see what we may learn from these experiences rather than how they occur. That we can have an experience of these beings says to me that they exist on some level or the other.
Most likely they are just a product of my own altered consciousness and aspects of myself, that is at least how I see it.
But that doesnt make it any less real for me, or any less profound. I still seek out these experiences, because they are so revolutionary different than our normal, everyday consesus reality. And these states may potentially teach us things of importance. But if these entitites are from different sources or a product of our own consciousness in the moment is a very good question, but impossible to answer unless we can perform some kind of studies that confirm either statements.
I mean, look at our western society and our analytical sciences. We have turned away from these things. This spesific chapter of our minds is a closed one for the most part (thanks to crazy acid priests like Timothy Leary), but substances like DMT gives us the chance to again open up the doors and the properties that our biological machine and our consciousness possess. Methods that very well may have been used since the birth of our species. It is, in my eyes, perfectly natural to ingest chemicals such as these to alter our sense of being. We have been doing it to a great extent for a very long time anyway, and it is a great way to explore!
It is interesting how such a ridiculous simple molecule compared to the amazing biological structure that is the human body can cause such radical changes in perception. The DMT molecule is a little simple structure compared to our very complex body. And the nature of these journeys are of great wonder and mystery that cannot simply be rationalized away as petty drug fantasies.
We can explain it through some known perspectives such as chemistry and neurology yes, but that is just (valid) perspectives of a phenomena that has in my mind several aspects worthy of exploration. It doesn't really explain the experience itself in the same way that science per this day have met serious difficulties in explaining how organized matter is capable of producing consciousness (whatever that is) and subjective reality perceptions. So we should keep exploring and keep looking through these lost chapters of our minds, and more serious research should and must be done.
About this whole mess with the DMT elves being real or whatever, does it really matter? I think that, on the individual scale, it is much more important to see what we may learn from these experiences rather than how they occur. That we can have an experience of these beings says to me that they exist on some level or the other.
Most likely they are just a product of my own altered consciousness and aspects of myself, that is at least how I see it.
But that doesnt make it any less real for me, or any less profound. I still seek out these experiences, because they are so revolutionary different than our normal, everyday consesus reality. And these states may potentially teach us things of importance. But if these entitites are from different sources or a product of our own consciousness in the moment is a very good question, but impossible to answer unless we can perform some kind of studies that confirm either statements.
I mean, look at our western society and our analytical sciences. We have turned away from these things. This spesific chapter of our minds is a closed one for the most part (thanks to crazy acid priests like Timothy Leary), but substances like DMT gives us the chance to again open up the doors and the properties that our biological machine and our consciousness possess. Methods that very well may have been used since the birth of our species. It is, in my eyes, perfectly natural to ingest chemicals such as these to alter our sense of being. We have been doing it to a great extent for a very long time anyway, and it is a great way to explore!
It is interesting how such a ridiculous simple molecule compared to the amazing biological structure that is the human body can cause such radical changes in perception. The DMT molecule is a little simple structure compared to our very complex body. And the nature of these journeys are of great wonder and mystery that cannot simply be rationalized away as petty drug fantasies.
We can explain it through some known perspectives such as chemistry and neurology yes, but that is just (valid) perspectives of a phenomena that has in my mind several aspects worthy of exploration. It doesn't really explain the experience itself in the same way that science per this day have met serious difficulties in explaining how organized matter is capable of producing consciousness (whatever that is) and subjective reality perceptions. So we should keep exploring and keep looking through these lost chapters of our minds, and more serious research should and must be done.
