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corpus callosum

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45 minutes ago,I smoked change (caapx 11 with FB ,1:1)in a waterbong and the calculated dose of DMT in this bowel was 50.2mg.This was consumed in one breath and was at the limit my lungs could take with the weight of leaf being 128mg (The 50.2 figure is due to 1g caapi x11 infused with 1g FB when all dry and done weight was 1.65g).I have no great talent for writing up tip reports but I would like to say that this compound never fails to show new depths and makes the truama of 25-35mg in the GVG in one breath seem like childs play.

The peak effects were not nice visuals and entities- this had mundane and arcane features and the pace of their evolution was ridculously fast.I allowed myself to slip into the ego-loss this demanded with no hesitation and was justly rewarded by a visual trip that so surpassed anything I have ever experienced before.This stuff goes deeper than you can possibly imagine and, I now think the extreme experiences with 20-30mg FB in the GVG dont even give an inkling of where this compound can take you.

Unsurprisingly, I think my desire to smoke DMT or changa is satiated for now.
 
corpus callosum said:
Unsurprisingly, I think my desire to smoke DMT or changa is satiated for now.
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This is what tells me that you indeed had a very deep journey. ^^^

Care to share any of it with us?

It’s no surprise that 50+mg of DMT in changa smoked in a single breath is more intense than 25mg DMT in a GVG. Twice as much DMT efficiently consumed in about the same amount of time will produce more intense effects, regardless of method and device used.
 
Its at times like these that I wish I had the linguistic abilities of Nexians such as RisingSpirit who can convey their experiences in a manner which leaves the reader able to understand and empathise.

The first thing to mention was that the inhalation was absolutely the maximum my lungs could hold, and the bowel was still full of fumes as it began to develop a diamond facet-like surface with a green tinge.I kept inhaling and when the bowel was done and as I turned to place the bong on the adjacent table I was seeing three of the bongs akin to a tracer effect but without the movement between the images of the bongs.

I lay back with eyes closed and was assaulted by the usual initial fractalizing ,liquid imagery which rapidly gave way to a telepathic sense of 'So, you REALLY want to see whats here?Well come along!!'-there was no entity conveying this to me but was like a broadcast from this 'space'.What followed was unlike anything I had seen before; the left side of this space was morphing and lunging towards me whereas the right side was filled with a range of images which had the clarity of a photograph, showing a red car speeding by with my point of view of it being as I were standing on an overpass which it passed below.In its wake I was presented with a further image of a young lady in a pink swimming suit eating an icecream standing along a sea-front promenade with a smile on her fully human face.The rate at which each image gave way to the next was horrendoulsy fast but the bizarre dichotomy between my two halves of the visual/experiential field remained distinct with a psychedelic morph-fest on the left and vision after vision of 'real' images on the right half.

The experience seemed alot more serious than the lesser realms of DMT where jesters and the like are seen and this is not meant to make light of such voyages.In some ways it seemed to be taunting me in the sense of 'You are here now and youve seen; can you deal with it?' and my failiure to respond made it seem that it began to try harder and harder to evoke an emotional response on my part.Having fully surrendered to it, and having no faculties to respond (and this is a function of letting myself glide into the observer status at the launch) it seemed content with my 'performance'.I was bathed in the visions which seemed to enter and leave what little remained of me at will and still failed to draw a response.

As the trip began to subside in my inner space the OEVs were still incredibly potent for several minutes longer before receding.My ability to think, after a fashion, had returned and my abiding thought was that I had been only 'paddling in the pool' till know, and this is where I had really seen this molecules capabilities.But it was also clear to me that the envelop could be pushed further as these realms were clearly not the end of the line; this I think would probably need 60mg but then again, at 60mg, should one not black out, the possibility of further dimensions may well be sensed as existing beyond that level.



All in all a fantastic but very heavy experience.My thoughts now are twofold:

1.I should make some caapi x20 changa with FB in a 1 : 2 ratio in order to push the dose a little higher but still so I can imbibe in one breath;

or 2.try pharma/aya. Changa and FB are wonderful tools but their brevity and aggressive onslaught makes them limited for personal improvement.


This is the biggest dose Ive taken thus far of changa and the difference between 47mg and just a few mgs more was incredibly surprising.
 
Its now 2 and a bit days after that heavy trip and Ive had time to integrate the experience and feel somewhat rejuvenated in my general outlook in life.Not that my outlook was particularly bad; if it were then that personally would not have been the right mindset to take such a dose.But I have had a good day devoid of the frustrations we all sometimes get over trivial things which, truly, arent worth the effect on your blood pressure.

I can now fully understand how some equate the heavier experiences with having died.I personally didnt feel that I had reached a state of death; this is because the experience of death is unknowable to us until you really get there.The peak of this trip was at that point of unity, where you have dissolved into your rightful place in this whole mysterious blessing we experience.A state of total 'death-like' stillness within where you dont have the capacity to register the the wonders presented before you in a way that can evoke any emotion.

The visual experience has had me pondering.I have never had anything coming close to the clear separation of imagery before with a fixed part of the 'DMT space' as you percieve it behaving in this way.Its as if half of my brain was tripping and the other half was dreaming.I mentioned photo-like clarity of the right side of my 'field of view'-on reflection it was like dreaming but faster, proper HD clarity whilst on the other side more conventional imagery was going on but I was beyond the point of registering any real fine details.Images seemlessly flowing like a film on fast-forward.

I weigh 55kg and the nature of this trip, on reflection, has me wondering if I was incredibly close to blacking out.

I think I have benefitted from this trip alot.And this is despite my memory of much of the experience having faded.But then again, the extreme power of this trip doesnt make it that surprising.I think the peak experience, the Nirvana state must be not too far from what I encountered..This was beyond 'Heaven and Hell' as these require a degree of interactive capacity to feel the rapture or the torment.In that place, that just didnt exist.


Has anyone ever had anything at all like the bloody bizarre visual effect Ive described?
 
Thanks a lot for the report and integration, corpus !

Indeed changa/dmt seem to get deeper and deeper. I dont remembe having had the exact visual effect you said but its possible.. I wonder if that would happen again in your next trips or if its one more of these ever-changing DMT absurdities? :D

So did you remember you had smoked dmt during the experience? Was there some kind of "tone" to the imagery? Like was it sarcastic, or scary, or did it seem like there was a message, etc ?

Btw I think the pharma idea sounds good, or my personal fav, shrooms+dmt :D

All the best !
 
Instead of a bigger dose try this.

Spend a few minutes slowly inhaling and exhaling. Slow your breath to twice per minute or as slow as comfortable. Then on one of the inhales take a very slow controlled hit without disturbing the flow of the breath. As you exhale ask, 'what am i' and then hold that single thought.

I dont believe the white light is dependant upon dose size alone! :)
 
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Interesting that you say this Joedirt- thats exactly what I did with my breathing before taking the hit.I didnt ask the question you suggested though; I seek to empty the mind of everything before launching.

In terms of remembering whether or not I'd smoked DMT during the trip- the state I reached was one of pure existence with no possibility of even posing the question.I cannot say that the trip had any particular tone and it wasnt scary but I think the lack of fear confirms how the mindset and ability to fully surrender to the experience governs how it goes.At this kind of dose, it certainly feels like DMT has some similarities to the dissociatives.

I dont think that these kinds of doses are for everyone, and if one were to experience this level of breakthrough just once in a lifetime then that would be sufficient.The qualitative nature of this trip was completely other-worldly and bore little resemblance to breakthroughs of the 20-35mg range.How deep can the rabbit-hole go??:?: :shock: :shock: :shock: :d
 
corpus callosum said:
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Interesting that you say this Joedirt- thats exactly what I did with my breathing before taking the hit.I didnt ask the question you suggested though; I seek to empty the mind of everything before launching.

In terms of remembering whether or not I'd smoked DMT during the trip- the state I reached was one of pure existence with no possibility of even posing the question.I cannot say that the trip had any particular tone and it wasnt scary but I think the lack of fear confirms how the mindset and ability to fully surrender to the experience governs how it goes.At this kind of dose, it certainly feels like DMT has some similarities to the dissociatives.

I dont think that these kinds of doses are for everyone, and if one were to experience this level of breakthrough just once in a lifetime then that would be sufficient.The qualitative nature of this trip was completely other-worldly and bore little resemblance to breakthroughs of the 20-35mg range.How deep can the rabbit-hole go??:?: :shock: :shock: :shock: :d
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You are right emptying the mind results in friendly trips, but if we can expand emtyiness we can also expand othere experiences. The question I posed is more a way to get to a mind set. One could also focus intensly on the desire for a white light experience before blasting off but as you know it only sets the tone and once blast off occurs the ability to focus on something drastically diminishes.
 
I can't even begin to understand in the slightest what you have described corpus.

I have much respect for you for taking such a heroic dose and wow that report was a splendid read.

You said you are satisfied in your desires so smoke dmt/changa, have you gone in again since this? and if so, how did it compare?
 
This was an epic trip for which my linguistic abilities are a poor descriptor.

The hi-def movie aspect was something I had not seen in other trip reports but I found one on the shroomery site which is very similar.This guy took 200mg but his technique/number of inhalations is not clear.

200mg DMT session - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

Completely inexplicable to say the least. I "died" It was very personalized; which I found to be strange. It took many things from my life and turned them into a movie culminating in the unfolding
shroomery.org shroomery.org


I next smoked DMT about 6 weeks later when I felt the calling; the doses since then have been much more sensible and I have to say that the trip we discuss still remains unparalleled for me.
 
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