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The direct e-mesh thread.
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some one
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Yes 31W in Wattage mode only for the 8cm long VV 150 mesh:
some one said:
Sounds like a plan. Looking forwards to hear about the result
PS. If you check the ratio of the 8cm to the 4cm 150 mesh, both the ohm and W go up roughly factor 1.6x. Not sure if this is sufficient data to conclude anything. The W of your 100 mesh doesn't follow the ratio it seems, could be due to 100 vs 150 mesh, or your breath in much faster.
some one
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Thanks for the effort Propello :thumb_up:
For anyone owning an Aegis like yourself (and myself now), TC is definitely preferred. We are doing this for all the folks who don't have TC or have poor TC control. If 30W is too low for you, try one more time with 45W. Or maybe you will need to do an additional 10sec inhalation. Really looking forward to the results.
As soon as I make some spice, I will test the 8cm long VV 150 mesh.
After this experiment I think we have all the data we need. Thanks again for all your input for this vape route!
For anyone owning an Aegis like yourself (and myself now), TC is definitely preferred. We are doing this for all the folks who don't have TC or have poor TC control. If 30W is too low for you, try one more time with 45W. Or maybe you will need to do an additional 10sec inhalation. Really looking forward to the results.
As soon as I make some spice, I will test the 8cm long VV 150 mesh.
After this experiment I think we have all the data we need. Thanks again for all your input for this vape route!
skoobysnax
Rising Star
Yesterday i ditched the VV SS316 and used the fitted mesh cut from the sheet (the100mesh from the link) with the aegis solo tcr mode 128, 60W at 195C and it was perfect. Easier to load. Nothing left on the screen. No drips. Perfect. One note is the heat. I have a longer drip tip than the original VV but just ordered a crook necked pyrex tip which should do the trick.
Propello
Rising Star
skoobysnax said:
I have used a 1cm long drip tip, works a lot better than the original one, which is only 3mm tall. It cools down the vape quite a bit. I also have a longer angled drip in pyrex which I just got, and love it. Glad to hear you had success with the fitted mesh Skooby
Safe travels.
I have been having a couple mislaunches that last couple times I have been using my emesh. It could be possible that I have been drinking a lot before causing me to not make it to hyperspace. I loaded 33 mg and 35 mg and failed breakthrough for both. Both times I was pretty drunk and was not able to finish the hit and there was still spice left on mesh. I think I need to make sure I can get that second hit which is difficult to ensure I breakthrough. Still like this method better than anything else but I think it can be difficult to get that second hit in to ensure the breakthrough
some one
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There are many reports of "break-throughts denials" and just as many advises to stop using for a while, or using with a better intention "because DMT thinks so and is forbidding you to pass".
I do believe that there is more to these substances than just a neurological effect which makes you high. Besides the whole alternative reality thing, it feels like there is some sort of "intelligence" involved. Less noticeable when you smoke DMT a couple of times, more when you partake in the oral route. Most experienced ayahuasca drinkers can tell you this. Not scientific double blind study proof (we don't have the tools and brain capacity to measure everything yet). But an interesting empirical / anecdotal observation nonetheless. Given the amount of people experiencing the same, certainly not one to be disregarded. Indeed you could argue that this experience is an illusion and that it's just a deeper part of yourself, your own subconscious. But then again, you could end all conversations by saying "all is maya, we are one, everything is sub atomic star dust vibrations". Such remarks however have little value from the perspective of our state of being.
To me the intelligence feels external, as if it's based on information from a different "collective consciousness" pool than the human one. Or, as if the substances change our "frequency" making us tap into an other "knowledge source". Just two of many theories about something our current mind can never grasp. What matters is not "why" the intelligence is there, or "what" it is, but that it's present. Something which cannot be explained can still exist. Most people triggered by neural network mechanisms evolutionary evolved for clan forming purposes which output religion and conservative bias (present for survival technical reasons), have trouble accepting the last sentence - but that's another story.
Although these substances can be fun to use, to many DMT, psilocybin, etc are not recreational drugs. You can try use them as such, but when you do the chances are that their intelligence will steer your away from doing so. The chance also exist, that after you are guided into the path of self/cultural-improvement, your ego retaliates by making you feel "super special", adding a "serious mindset" (tired of my quotations yet?) to the whole endeavor. That's just a stage and again an other story. The point now is that you gotta ask yourself, what's your intention to smoke spice after getting drunk? You've posted doing so multiple times.
I do believe that there is more to these substances than just a neurological effect which makes you high. Besides the whole alternative reality thing, it feels like there is some sort of "intelligence" involved. Less noticeable when you smoke DMT a couple of times, more when you partake in the oral route. Most experienced ayahuasca drinkers can tell you this. Not scientific double blind study proof (we don't have the tools and brain capacity to measure everything yet). But an interesting empirical / anecdotal observation nonetheless. Given the amount of people experiencing the same, certainly not one to be disregarded. Indeed you could argue that this experience is an illusion and that it's just a deeper part of yourself, your own subconscious. But then again, you could end all conversations by saying "all is maya, we are one, everything is sub atomic star dust vibrations". Such remarks however have little value from the perspective of our state of being.
To me the intelligence feels external, as if it's based on information from a different "collective consciousness" pool than the human one. Or, as if the substances change our "frequency" making us tap into an other "knowledge source". Just two of many theories about something our current mind can never grasp. What matters is not "why" the intelligence is there, or "what" it is, but that it's present. Something which cannot be explained can still exist. Most people triggered by neural network mechanisms evolutionary evolved for clan forming purposes which output religion and conservative bias (present for survival technical reasons), have trouble accepting the last sentence - but that's another story.
Although these substances can be fun to use, to many DMT, psilocybin, etc are not recreational drugs. You can try use them as such, but when you do the chances are that their intelligence will steer your away from doing so. The chance also exist, that after you are guided into the path of self/cultural-improvement, your ego retaliates by making you feel "super special", adding a "serious mindset" (tired of my quotations yet?) to the whole endeavor. That's just a stage and again an other story. The point now is that you gotta ask yourself, what's your intention to smoke spice after getting drunk? You've posted doing so multiple times.
zikzak
Rising Star
Just learned from a guy that the Motar glass top fits on the Wotofo profile RDA. I have a Vandy Vape v1 which the Motar top doesn't fit on. Both the VVv1 and the Wotofo are listed as 24 mm but the VVv1 has a wider base.
Also I couldn't find any mesh RDA's wider than 24 mm. But there are many RDA's that are much wider. If one of them would be easy to build a mesh onto (I'm not experienced with RDA's) one could have a much bigger mesh area. Any ideas on this?
Also I couldn't find any mesh RDA's wider than 24 mm. But there are many RDA's that are much wider. If one of them would be easy to build a mesh onto (I'm not experienced with RDA's) one could have a much bigger mesh area. Any ideas on this?
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zikzak
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Yeah right Propello ;-)
Alcohol might do the trick for some but definitely also a chance to fuck up the experience. However it's definitely possible to mix it up with DMT. I've had some AMAZING experiences with a lower dose of a dissociative before taking off. Pre flight anxiety calms down and the wider headspace caused by the disso make way for a potentially even greater experience IME. But maybe we should save this discussion for another thread and focus on gear here? ;-)
Alcohol might do the trick for some but definitely also a chance to fuck up the experience. However it's definitely possible to mix it up with DMT. I've had some AMAZING experiences with a lower dose of a dissociative before taking off. Pre flight anxiety calms down and the wider headspace caused by the disso make way for a potentially even greater experience IME. But maybe we should save this discussion for another thread and focus on gear here? ;-)
