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The Herbal Percolator (THP) extraction method

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SWIM is considering constructing a scaled-down (a narrower and shorter bottle) version of this to extract from psilocybes with ethanol. He was thinking about using cotton-balls instead of towels (due to a smaller size). SWIM is considering this due to the lack of heating and possibly easier filtering (as the contraption should do most of the filtering, correct?) Any thoughts on the matter?
 
that sounds like it would work wonderfully..SWIM would run your ethanol through the mushrooms a few times..
 
The Traveler said:
This Tek has now been added to the DMT-Nexus Wiki:
The Herbal Percolator
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Nice! How can I get edit rights on that page in case I want to update it?

amor_fati said:
He was thinking about using cotton-balls instead of towels (due to a smaller size).
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This method uses cotton/cotton-balls as the main filter medium. The towel on top of the material to prevent the particles from floating up. But use what is convenient.

amor_fati said:
SWIM is considering this due to the lack of heating and possibly easier filtering (as the contraption should do most of the filtering, correct?) Any thoughts on the matter?
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Yes, the contraption should do all of the filtering. When you don't cook material, it is usually much easier to filter. Just look at that caapi brew that is displayed on the THP wiki page. It is crystal clear, straight from the bottle.
 
Have you tried registering, Dagger? I believe you should be able to.

Also, SWIM had some old robo bottles in storage, and he cut some up to build a percolator. He ended up wrapping a cottonball in a piece of a cotton rag and using another piece overtop the fungal material. It yielded a clean wash that seems to contain alkaloids, SWIM will report when evap is complete. If this works well, it could be quite revolutionary for psilocybe extractions, as it seems to be quite troublesome with the currently used methods--if the shroomery's threads are any indication.

By the way, what sort of drop rate seems sufficient for this?
 
amor_fati said:
By the way, what sort of drop rate seems sufficient for this?
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Any kind really. From a stream to a drop every few second. To increase drop rate, you may make a longer tube, this will create a larger pressure. If you have a vacuum flask, you may attach the bottle to it. Should make it go much faster.

Drop rate also depends on how hard the cotton is compressed. I know some people have made some kind of modification to the setup, were they could decide how fast it would drop through by just opening or closing a handle on the neck of the bottle.
 
obliguhl said:
Would it be possible to acidify with citric acid? What ratio?
Is it possible to extrakt mimosa and pull with naphta?
Can you pull something out of mimosa?
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Sorry, I have not tried any of those things. But I would supposed citric acid would work as well as any other acid. Naphta, I don't know about, but if naphta works with other method, I'm sure it will work with this method too. Using water+acid with this tek on mimosa works wonderfully.
 
MHRB is a tough material to extract from, but if it's completely powdered, SWIM can't see why it wouldn't work.
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I don't see what is so hard with extracting from mimosa. Buy some finely powdered mimosa. Throw it into the THP, give it a few hours, voila, it is extracted, and filtered. With a vacuum filter, you can be done in 20 minutes. Besides, powdered mimosa does not really need to be boiled anyway.
 
Dagger said:
MHRB is a tough material to extract from, but if it's completely powdered, SWIM can't see why it wouldn't work.
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I don't see what is so hard with extracting from mimosa. Buy some finely powdered mimosa. Throw it into the THP, give it a few hours, voila, it is extracted, and filtered. With a vacuum filter, you can be done in 20 minutes. Besides, powdered mimosa does not really need to be boiled anyway.
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Tough because unlike shredded caapi bark, shredded MHRB requires a good deal of chemically induced cellular breakdown in order to sufficiently access its alkaloids, whereas the powdered material's alkaloids are readily accessible for extraction.
 
Tough because unlike shredded caapi bark, shredded MHRB requires a good deal of chemically induced cellular breakdown in order to sufficiently access its alkaloids, whereas the powdered material's alkaloids are readily accessible for extraction.
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I wonder if heating mimosa bark in the oven would make it brittle enough to easily powder, or do you think this would destroy the actives? With high enough temperature these things will usually turn to a blackish brittle material. I wonder at what point dmt tannate or whatever evaporates at?
 
btw, SWIM has tried the percolator method and it works very good indeed.. but SWIM only did it once and took the usual equivalent dose (40g caapi).. He had a good trip, but not necessarily more than any other.. maybe if he had taken less he would still get a good trip, so cant say if its more or less strong than normally..

the only pain of the process is that it took a long while for SWIM to reduce the amounts, like hours, even dividing in big pots.. its a lot of water to deal with

but still quite recommended, SWIM would say.
 
endlessness said:
the only pain of the process is that it took a long while for SWIM to reduce the amounts, like hours, even dividing in big pots.. its a lot of water to deal with
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Yes. It is not strictly necessary to use large amounts of water. It was just that I recommended it to get as much actives out as possible. I think if you use warmer water, you won't need to use as much water. If you get a percolator that can handle close to boiling water, I'm sure you would probably not need more than 1/5th the water. Anyone know were to get some good heat resistant bottles or other contraption that can work as a percolator?
 
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