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the lockout phenomenon

Pandora said:
Well I would not recommend sprinkling a little on a joint and here is why - in a joint you will 100% burn all of the DMT. You are NOT going to find that to be a pleasant taste or smell.

Another issue is it takes minutes to smoke a joint.

You have about 30 seconds with DMT. Then you are smoking against a massive wall of tolerance. So even if you noticed a hint of body load or whatever with that first hit, by the time you got to the third or fourth, you would most likely just be noticing the foul flavor and odor.

But if you are 100% go on this I would say maybe add 25 to 30 mgs evenly to the joint.

Then light the joint and take a hit - maybe medium sized, and hold it.

Now just sit with it for awhile. Even let the cherry on the joint go out.

After a few minutes, hit it again. If you didn't feel much the first time or if you felt a bit and liked it, this time take two hits and maybe make them bigger. Hold them. Park the joint. Sit with it. . . .


You get the idea . . . .

Finally, expect SMOKED freebase DMT plus weed to be a rather harsh/caustic smoke, but I know you are my age and we old stoners have leather lungs so I'm sure you will be up to it.
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I'd add to this - don't load any into the tip of the joint, so there's an initial bit of cherry that allows at least a little convective vaporisation to occur without needlessly burning up all the DMT. But you (@iownme) have gone and done it now anyhow.
Pandora said:
Your patience is laudable. DMT is more than worth the wait. As I frequently tell folks, my pathway to DMT was an ongoing journey for about 21 years before first hearing about and KNOWING I had to try it and actually doing my own extraction and trying it.
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Wow - you make me feel like I did a speedrun - only ten years to finally try it, and fifteen to extract my own 😂
 
There's also the old skool "sandwich method" of administration which some swear by, but I've never tried.

It involves packing a bong bowl with a little ash, then herb, then DMT on top, then herb. The herb is lit as gently as possible for a small cherry and DMT gets, hopefully, vaporised by the hot gasses from the burning herb without being burned itself.

Just putting DMT in the middle portion of a joint must be very similar.
 
fractals4life said:
There's also the old skool "sandwich method" of administration which some swear by, but I've never tried.

It involves packing a bong bowl with a little ash, then herb, then DMT on top, then herb. The herb is lit as gently as possible for a small cherry and DMT gets, hopefully, vaporised by the hot gasses from the burning herb without being burned itself.

Just putting DMT in the middle portion of a joint must be very similar.
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Puts a new meaning to the idea of a 'sandwich joint', really.

The other "sandwich technique" involves putting rue and bark powders into an actual sandwich, preferably with a high-end nutella analogue.
 
If the lockout effect is due to hyperspace entities or some phenomenon in the DMT realm, than I would assume a person could test this by taking a large enough dose of psilocybin. If you get there with mushrooms then I would assume it’s not hyperspace and rather weird biochemistry.

Just my 2 cents. I know many view DMT hyperspace as deeper or quite different from psilocybin but I don’t. They are almost identical experiences.
 
Haha I am excited for you iownme and also I am also excited that last Sunday I did some DMT for the first time in 18 months. Chatting with you on the Forum is part of what lit a fire under me and made the call loud and clear. I cannot wait to do it again once this heavy workload backs off. Funny you should say fly too . . . . the great majority of my trips that land me in hyperspace, be it a fullblown breakthrough or not, I find myself floating around as if in zero G
 
Pandora said:
Haha I am excited for you iownme and also I am also excited that last Sunday I did some DMT for the first time in 18 months. Chatting with you on the Forum is part of what lit a fire under me and made the call loud and clear. I cannot wait to do it again once this heavy workload backs off. Funny you should say fly too . . . . the great majority of my trips that land me in hyperspace, be it a fullblown breakthrough or not, I find myself floating around as if in zero G
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what great timing for us both to have been in the right space and place at the right time😉
 
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