The Machine: How good is it really?

[Samadeus]

Backstory:

I am trying to perfect the Machine technique. I have a 50cl Henessy bottle machine, a single-flame butane torch/jet lighter, and regular BIC lighters.


So far seems to only be getting very little vapor regardless of whether using the butane torch or BIC lighter...

The problem is that the heat-range between "Vapor" and "BURNING!" seems very small with The Machine, so it's a constant struggle to try to limit the heat, which of course means less vapors, etc etc... vicious cycle... Seems the machine needs a lot of practice and a very exact distance between the bottle and the heat source.


Questions:

* Question 1: Put a finger in the air hole to trap the vapors, to load up a huge hit all at once? Or constantly draw while it's vaporizing? But come to think of it: Restricting airflow with a finger over the straw might be counterproductive to producing vapors?

* Question 2: Use the Butane torch or BIC lighter? The butane torch is very hot and pretty much instantly produces vapors, and seems to be the best option for rapidly vaporizing, as long as the proper distance can be mastered to avoid burning the DMT. The BIC lighter takes about 30 seconds to heat everything up and is veeeeery slow at producing and sustaining vapors after that, and suddenly it's too much and burns the DMT. Have been unable to get much vapor using a BIC lighter. Seems the Butane torch wins this category.

* Question 3: Which side of the mesh to put the DMT on? Seems to be: Outside/Towards bottle opening=Faster heat but more risk of burning, Inside/Towards bottle chamber=Harder to vaporize.


Here's an idea for what might be the best technique:

* DMT on inside of mesh, to protect it from the butane torch's heat.
* Using a butane torch underneath the bottle, like a hot air balloon. At a good distance, so that the hot air passes up through the mesh and vaporizes the DMT without burning.
* Draw a little bit on the straw to circulate the air and help the DMT mix with fresh air, to facilitate vapors.


All thoughts and all help would be appreciated. I want this thread to be a useful resource for other Machine explorers in the future.

 

[oversoul1919]

Since I have some experience with machine: here are my tips:

Put your spice in the middle of the mesh if you can. That way, it will be harder for it to escape from the flame to wall of the bottle.

If you're using a Bic, you can even touch the mesh, and you probably won't burn the spice. With butane torch, flame and temperature control is easier, but it is tricky to find the right distance. It is easier to burn the spice if you get too close.

Check if your mesh is not too big. This was the problem with my first attempt ever to smoalk DMT. If your mesh is too large, and your DMT is on top of your mesh, it can be impossible to reach the temperature high enough for vaporization.

Machine, to me, has to be one of the best ways to smoalk DMT. Still have to try GVG, but so far, I love my Machine. And I've heard of people who like it so much they're sticking with it forever.

Peace and love.

 

[Nadja]

I can finally see the picture! I put it on imgur for other people:

 

[Nadja]

PsychoFraggle: It looks good but maybe too big and clumsy to handle? I can't judge from your hand size. Your machine should be a small pipe so that you can keep breathing vapors continuously instead of air. You may want to make a cheap one from a bottle. I made this one: My version of the "Machine" - How to make it in <15 minutes - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus Especially if you drop it. Your regular bong would break and would make you very sad. But it doesn't matter if a cheap $1 bottle breaks. :lol:

 

[Sandgrease]

I use a mini Henny bottle with a few steel screens for the Vapir NO2 vaporizer stscked and stuffed into the neck. I guess you could use regular steel pipe screens but the vapir ones are perfect size. I just drop the spice onto the stack of screens and keep the bottle pointed upwords and take my bic and slowly creep the flame closer and closer to the bottle neck while inhaling untill I see vapor/smoke.

Stacked steel screens in the bottle neck works better than mesh for me. Steel also has a higher vaporization temp than copper.

 

[twofourtwo]

I've put a screen in the cap of the bottle. I use bic lighters and it seems to help prevent burning the dmt.

 

[Nadja]

I've put a screen in the cap of the bottle. I use bic lighters and it seems to help prevent burning the dmt.

Most of the vaporization actually comes from hot air rising from the lighter and passing through the bottle.

Your screen absorbs a little bit of that heat, and acts as a heatsink and a radiator which evens out the heating of the bottle.

It's pretty overkill, though, since you've actually already got a heatsink: The steel/copper mesh that you've placed the DMT on is a heatsink and radiator.

Your extra screen actually makes it harder to heat everything, by pre-absorbing some of the incoming heat. This of course also makes it harder to overheat things, since the lighter has to be brought closer to achieve vaporization.

An extra screen like this could therefore be useful for people who have a habit of bringing the lighter too close and burning things.

Thanks for the tip and for sharing nice images!


Love and light.