The power of pot

[Biskotso]

I spent many years smoking pot every evening but recently I realised that it no longer served me and stopped about a month ago. It was mainly the tobacco that I wanted to move away from. Now I feel that I spent years satisfying nicotine cravings with joints!? HaHa. (I never smoked just tobacco, but I consumed the stuff every day in my evening joints so for sure I was addicted.)

Ironically I have had two plants growing in my garden which we harvested ten days ago. So we rolled a pure joint to try it. Having not smoked for a while it was a VERY strong experience.

My girlfriend went through exactly what you did archaic_architect. It's uncanny how you both even use the same vocabulary to explain your experience.

She also said that she received some answers to questions that some DMT sessions prompted.
She entered Hyperspace realm for sure. We're going to sit down this afternoon and talk it through and share our hearts.
X

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

It is a plant sacred to Shiva, but traditionally it was eaten and not smoked.
Eating it can have effects that smoking cannot, some of the strains that are not that strong for smoke can be incredibly strong when eaten. Some of the strains that are incredible for smoke are not very choice for eating.

 

[jamie]

I have never found eating it to be any more powerful to be honest when one has no tolerance. I think this from the fact that alot of people smoke so much that they are tolerant to the effects and eating it allows enough to build up in the system so that they actaully get to a hallucinogenic level. I know that when eaten it metabolizes differently but I have eaten it so many times and smoked 10 lifetimes worth of the stuff and I have never gotten to the levels eating it as I have when I smoked too much after weeks or months away from it. Ive eaten it and tripped hard but still smoking big bong hits with zero tolerance has seriousily fucked with every sense I had of who I was, where I was, and what area of space time I was inhabiting.

Maybe it is just me..but I always find it sort of odd when people act like there is some level that you can get to eating cannabis that you cant reach when it is smoked..unless tolerance is an issue.

 

[MySmelf]

I have never found eating it to be any more powerful to be honest when one has no tolerance. I think this from the fact that alot of people smoke so much that they are tolerant to the effects and eating it allows enough to build up in the system so that they actaully get to a hallucinogenic level. I know that when eaten it metabolizes differently but I have eaten it so many times and smoked 10 lifetimes worth of the stuff and I have never gotten to the levels eating it as I have when I smoked too much after weeks or months away from it. Ive eaten it and tripped hard but still smoking big bong hits with zero tolerance has seriousily fucked with every sense I had of who I was, where I was, and what area of space time I was inhabiting.

Maybe it is just me..but I always find it sort of odd when people act like there is some level that you can get to eating cannabis that you cant reach when it is smoked..unless tolerance is an issue.

You're not the only one! I also don't find eating it to be more "powerful", psychedelically speaking, than smoking it.

To me eating it is more of a physical experience, eating too much can become extremely uncomfortable sometimes causing hot flashes and panic attacks. Whereas smoking it tends to be more psychedelic/mental.

As to tolerance I smoke about as often as fractal:

smoke once a week and it will always be like that..plus you wont feel burnt out all the time or semi-addicted to cannabis..or have to deal with any other negative side effects. Sometimes I smoke like 2 or 3 times a week..but if I do I end up stopping for 2-3 weeks..adverage I smoke once or twice a week. Daily use is just so boring and dulling in comparison to the full effects of more occasional use.

almost exactly like that.

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

i once knew a woman who would never smoke it
because when she did, she didn't like it
and once she was given a tea of the leaves
and her whole body reacted with a state of prolonged orgasm
and psychedelic hallucination
it never did that to me, but then i smoked it
i've seen cannabis that did nothing when you smoke it
become amazing when eaten
THC doesn't seem to be the thing
that makes this amazing

 

[Purges]

I once put 1/2 ounce of hash in a batch of brownies, maybe 8-10 squares. I ended up getting the munchies and ate about 4 of them within an hour. It was very much like sedated acid without the swirly imagery, thinking and speaking were out of the question. the next day I woke up just as fucked as the day before, stumbled into the kitchen looking for food, found some cake, completely forgetting I had put a significant amount of hash in them I gobbled a couple. That day was more of a write off than the previous one. I was horrendously fucked, every inch of my body was tingling, I couldn't move and my mind was going off on crazy tangents. Luckily I am / was a seasoned bong smoker, and was used to the effects that Frac mentioned above, so I ended up enjoying it, but it was touch and go. I don't think some one inexperienced with weed would have ended up having a good time on that much, they probably would have freaked the fuck out, it really was overload, but I'm glad I had the experience. Eating a 1/4 ounce or so in a short amount of time is no joke! And it is slow realease, just keeps building and building to crazy levels. I remember supplementing it with a joint or 2 as well before they had come on properly, silly boy :lol:

 

[tele]

^Call em "friggin munchees"!

 

[Purges]

I won't be repeating that again in a hurry :lol:

 

[tigerstrike92]

Earlier today I was daydreaming about iboga, and I thought to myself, "There has GOT to be some other plant that can have serious psychedelic effects at an oral dose of one or two grams.... wait a tic..." WEED!

Has anyone ever just straight ate a whole gram of high quality ganja? Either ground up and put in gel caps, or just straight eaten. What about anyone who has had the stones to eat two whole grams of potent pot? Just to be clear, I'm not talking about baking it into cookies, cannabutter, or brownies, etc. but literally eating the straight bud. I feel like that would produce some pretty darn serious effects.

Though I do suppose shrooms have a similar dosage, but are also less readily available.

 

[jamie]

^ THC has to be heated in order to be converted into the psychoactive cannabinoid that is active in the body. This is why people make butter or other infused oils that ate heated as the cannabinoids are extracted..the heat is essential for the conversion to take place. There are some effects from eating flowers or hash etc straight but I think it is more a heavy sedation from the other alkaloids.

Mushrooms are also serious psychedelics in just 1 or 2 grams..even cubes at 2 grams can be powerful..cyanescens at 2 grams can be a heavy trip..mimosa can be visionary for some at just 2 grams(with harmalas)..vilca and yopo are both extremely active at less than 1 gram..I would NEVER take 2 grams of vilca..HBWR are quite potent with just a few seeds..even just 2 grams of rue has given me visions..

 

[polytrip]

Earlier today I was daydreaming about iboga, and I thought to myself, "There has GOT to be some other plant that can have serious psychedelic effects at an oral dose of one or two grams.... wait a tic..." WEED!

Has anyone ever just straight ate a whole gram of high quality ganja? Either ground up and put in gel caps, or just straight eaten. What about anyone who has had the stones to eat two whole grams of potent pot? Just to be clear, I'm not talking about baking it into cookies, cannabutter, or brownies, etc. but literally eating the straight bud. I feel like that would produce some pretty darn serious effects.

Though I do suppose shrooms have a similar dosage, but are also less readily available.

Yes, when you've got good quality hash or weed, 1 gram can be enough to have a strong psychedelic experience.

In order for it to work, a few things are required.
1-it has to be heated like frac says.
2-it has to be taken on an empty stomach.
3-it has to be processed in something fatty that will make your stomach absorb it faster: brownies, pancake's, etc.
4-when you bake brownies or pancake, one single dose must be served in portions as small as possible: the quicker your stomach can absorb all of the cannabinoids, the better.
5-if you want to trip hard...you need to abstain of cannabis for AT lEAST a month. The longer you stay clean, the better it works. If you use cannabis regularly it will not have strong psychedelic effects and it will only sedate you.

Some MAOI's will boost the effects of cannabis.

 

[endlessness]

How many milligrams/grams of good hash should an average dose be when eating, polytrip? Im on a THC break, now at day 10, will be a month off, and I was thinking of maybe using the opportunity when I go back, and eat some before I vaporize again.

 

[Enoon]

something like 0.8-1.0g of hash (not even that high quality) in regular yoghurt (not defat) always worked for me (first heated with a lighter)... but without caffeine or some kind of upper, more often than not I'd get circulatory problems, feel dizzy and start shaking... fun times. But definitely psychedelic.

 

[polytrip]

How many milligrams/grams of good hash should an average dose be when eating, polytrip? Im on a THC break, now at day 10, will be a month off, and I was thinking of maybe using the opportunity when I go back, and eat some before I vaporize again.

A gram should definately do it. Eating much more will either make you puke or knock you asleep.

 

[Metanoia]

I have never found eating it to be any more powerful to be honest when one has no tolerance. I think this from the fact that alot of people smoke so much that they are tolerant to the effects and eating it allows enough to build up in the system so that they actaully get to a hallucinogenic level. I know that when eaten it metabolizes differently but I have eaten it so many times and smoked 10 lifetimes worth of the stuff and I have never gotten to the levels eating it as I have when I smoked too much after weeks or months away from it. Ive eaten it and tripped hard but still smoking big bong hits with zero tolerance has seriousily fucked with every sense I had of who I was, where I was, and what area of space time I was inhabiting.

Maybe it is just me..but I always find it sort of odd when people act like there is some level that you can get to eating cannabis that you cant reach when it is smoked..unless tolerance is an issue.

My experience has been much different. When I smoke, even with no tolerance at all (nowadays), I get to a certain level and just plateau. Doesn't matter how potent the bud is. Like you I smoked everyday, all day for years and I thought that perhaps it was because my tolerance never really falls below a certain level. I went two years without smoking or eating any cannabis, and then when I smoked a lot of really potent bud, I got to that plateau and didn't get any higher.

When I eat it, especially with no tolerance, I can get way beyond that plateau. Much like Purges described. If I eat a lot at once, I get extremely tripped out, to the point where I have had visual hallucinations. They weren't pronounced like they would be with DMT or mushrooms, but they happened nonetheless. The bodily effects were so strong at that dose though, it was very uncomfortable. My mind was racing and my entire body would feel almost flu-like for a second, then orgasmic the next. Cycling between the two over and over. It was very crazy and difficult to get through. Also like Purges story, I felt the effects for a couple days afterward. I went to work about 48 hours after ingesting and was still having a difficult time. So doses that high can be very psychedelic, and very long lasting, so you need several days to experience it.

It is different than smoking, I will admit. If I could get to that level from smoking, I'd probably enjoy it more Although it's not as though I've never tried

 

[jamie]

See I have completely freaked out from smoking too much, to the point where I ran away from my friends and took off into the woods where I was seeing neon energy fields pulsate in the trees, and the trees and plants were communicating with me telepathically. I had to just walk and walk in the forest for a few hours until I started to clam down, the whole time hallucinating. I also consistantly experience a very realistic sensation of "time travel" when I smoke too much..I will experience time sort of warping in on itself and I get previous time "frames" stacking up ontop of present and future time frames. It is facinating but not something I would call enjoyable. Often it is extremely uncomfortable on a psychological level and so I dont care to repeat it often...actaully I never repeat it other than when I sort of forget how much I have smoked and end up at that level, usually when I am with other people who smoke constantly.

 

[Metanoia]

As unpleasant as that sounds, I wish I could achieve that from smoking

I have to eat a lot of really potent bud to get to that level.

I've considered the possibility that it's psychological. Why I plateau with smoked cannabis. But I don't know how that could be. I just get to this cut off stage, and that's that. Just more dry mouth and munchies.

 

[jamie]

it helps if you eat some harmalas(or maybe smoke them) and then smoke a bunch of cannabis. I smoked a few hits after drinking 80g of caapi once..lets just say I never did that again...but it did manifest the full range of psychedelic effects from cannabis. The caapi peak was over but my system was still primed enough for it to really really potentiate the cannabis.

 

[tigerstrike92]

Thats really cool to hear fractal. And I'm like you, if I haven't smoalked for a week or two, then I hit some potent bud way more than I should, Il get some crazy neon patterns too.

On the topic of harmalas, has anyone else had experience with just a rue/caapi brew and cannabis? This seems really compelling for some reason. Thanks for your input Fractal!

 

[Metanoia]

I'll have to give that a try sometime soon. I've been experimenting with caapi brews a bit lately, and have enjoyed them. I've been wanting to take a caapi brew of mild/medium strength and then after a while eat some mushrooms.