The subtle art of surfing DMT waves...

[windyshaman]

Some might remember from my previous threads that I practice with a portable dry herbs vaporizer.
On more than a few occasions, while trying to get the last bits of spice from it on a comedown - I had a thought: what if there was a way to re-load and just keep going?

Well that, plus the experience of the last few months and my butchered attempt at improving the quality of my practice with a desktop-style setup - made me try something.

- takes 2x vaporizers, first one is loaded with changa (whatever fits) - second with freebase (70mg)
- start with changa
- on the comedown from changa - light up the second vaporizer and hit it once it reaches temperature plus 60-90secs

Result: the current changa batch I'm going through is quite mild in terms of the DMT content, very a changa-like though, trippy.
Lit the second unit - once I was lucid enough
Frankly remember being scared, felt like cliff-diving.... no going back... inhale...
Come up was rather gentle, but it just kept going... and going... and going... Bliss, joy, divine, astonishment... As usual - can't remember a thing from the other side, oh that was yet another breakthrough which re-defined what a breakthrough is for me...
What if our inability to remember anything has more to do with the fact that we have no words to describe it? Does it need to be?
Comedown... what a comedown it was... most amazing OEV-s of a divine beauty...

Here's the thing: the whole trip lasted about 30-40mins, most of which accounts the comedown.

No prepping, this was the one and only session of the day. Came out not wishing for more. I've got what I went in for and so much more - been shown things I can't discuss.

If only I could find my socks now...

 

[brettsta]

Yes it's very interesting that your talking about this , I've been doing the same for the last year .
I use two vaporizers vap 1 is a volcano hybrid and vap 2 is a puffco proxy .

I load up vap 1 and vap 2 with 60mg each ,
I start with vap 1, it gently heats and stays on for 20 minutes so it's easy to take 3 or more pulls especially
with the whip pipe, and vap 2 sits two clicks away on my lap and will only be used if or when I'm in that incredible place.

Vap 1 gets me gets me fully in the realm and normally gone for a good 10-13 minutes .
As I surface and my vision comes back and I'm extremely jubilant and need to go back
I look down click the puffco twice and in 10 seconds I take the mother of all pulls .

This is can go two ways , Even before I finish the pull I'm gone instantly , it goes absolutely berserk !
Forget hanging out with machine elves I become one with the Realm it's self , it's behond all words it's the secret that can't be told .
Or everything goes extremely pear shaped, !! and when I say pear shaped I mean
absolute extreme mind fuk and absolute dread and terror .

 

[windyshaman]

Didn't think - I was the first one who thought about it.

Had some difficult DMT trips in the past and the way I see it now - it's all about set and setting... well and us being abusive to the spice.
Currently I'm keeping the frequency at no more than once per two weeks - better if three or more.
Think - I'm finally getting to the point where my practice is finding some sense to it - other than the novelty.

 

[brettsta]

Didn't think - I was the first one who thought about it.

Had some difficult DMT trips in the past and the way I see it now - it's all about set and setting... well and us being abusive to the spice.
Currently I'm keeping the frequency at no more than once per two weeks - better if three or more.
Think - I'm finally getting to the point where my practice is finding some sense to it - other than the novelty.

Yeah I like to leave a few week break between journeys , I'm due to do one anytime now I but keep bottling it ,
been feeling the fear lately after a couple of horrific crashes.
I've given up trying to make sense of it , what happened in the Realm stays in the Realm ,
I try not to overthink and analyze nowadays . The information isn't for this waking world,
I remember everything! when I'm back there .

 

[Varallo]

Yeah I like to leave a few week break between journeys , I'm due to do one anytime now I but keep bottling it ,
been feeling the fear lately after a couple of horrific crashes.
I've given up trying to make sense of it , what happened in the Realm stays in the Realm ,
I try not to overthink and analyze nowadays . The information isn't for this waking world,
I remember everything! when I'm back there .

Just as a friendly point to make, when I read this, I get the sense that a lack of integration might be part of why you’re having difficult experiences and feeling fear. The idea that what happens in hyperspace stays in hyperspace doesn’t seem to work well for most people.

In my experience, the key to having more positive experiences, and healthier relationships and interactions to that space, is integration. What exactly integration means can be a bit ambiguous, but broadly speaking it involves taking the time to reflect on your experiences, give them meaning, find a place for them, and allow them to actively interact with who you are in daily life.

Pushing experiences away, whether they’re positive or challenging, doesn’t seem like a good long-term solution. From my experience this approach often leads to more difficult trips over time. I’m not sure if this is exactly what you meant, but that’s how I interpreted your message. If integration isn’t something you’re actively doing, I would strongly suggest taking the time for it, as it’s a very important practice.

More on topic, I think I practice something quite similar, but I use oral harmalas. This allows me, when using a vaporizer, to stay long periods of time in hyperspace if I choose to, though usually after about an hour it’s more than enough. I’ll link the relevant topic below.

Exp. Report Thread 'A holiday to hyperspace, surfing the wave an hour plus.'

Apr 29, 2024

So this is the first time i write a trip report, I do keep notes on my endeavors but never verry descriptive on the whole but mostly details.

A bit of background, I have been using dmt in all possible ways over the last decades. Combined it with most other drugs and especially with harmalas in the form of extracts or with Aya. Up until recently I had to travel with the more classic vaporizers like an GVG or the emesh method and although they get the desired effect it’s difficult to dose consecutively without having to return to world for at least a bit to handle the device. Now in the...

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[TransistorBass]

I'd kinda relate the Bottling it to be part of integration, if the moment is not right don't go in there.
Though there's only so many times you can make your own excuses because you are afraid, the build up to things is far worse than 'stepping off' this is my Bungee Jump Analogy.
Reducing the fear for me has been making my own DMT Vape Juice, playing with Syrian Rue, and very shortly I'll be adding FB Harmalas to my sessions. I'll be taking the Escalator rather than the Hyper-Lift!

 

[brettsta]

Just as a friendly point to make, when I read this, I get the sense that a lack of integration might be part of why you’re having difficult experiences and feeling fear. The idea that what happens in hyperspace stays in hyperspace doesn’t seem to work well for most people.

In my experience, the key to having more positive experiences, and healthier relationships and interactions to that space, is integration. What exactly integration means can be a bit ambiguous, but broadly speaking it involves taking the time to reflect on your experiences, give them meaning, find a place for them, and allow them to actively interact with who you are in daily life.

Pushing experiences away, whether they’re positive or challenging, doesn’t seem like a good long-term solution. From my experience this approach often leads to more difficult trips over time. I’m not sure if this is exactly what you meant, but that’s how I interpreted your message. If integration isn’t something you’re actively doing, I would strongly suggest taking the time for it, as it’s a very important practice.

More on topic, I think I practice something quite similar, but I use oral harmalas. This allows me, when using a vaporizer, to stay long periods of time in hyperspace if I choose to, though usually after about an hour it’s more than enough. I’ll link the relevant topic below.

Exp. Report Thread 'A holiday to hyperspace, surfing the wave an hour plus.'

Apr 29, 2024

So this is the first time i write a trip report, I do keep notes on my endeavors but never verry descriptive on the whole but mostly details.

A bit of background, I have been using dmt in all possible ways over the last decades. Combined it with most other drugs and especially with harmalas in the form of extracts or with Aya. Up until recently I had to travel with the more classic vaporizers like an GVG or the emesh method and although they get the desired effect it’s difficult to dose consecutively without having to return to world for at least a bit to handle the device. Now in the...

• Varallo
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• Forum: DMT Experience Reports

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Hi , thanks for comment , but I think your getting me a little wrong , I've been traversing the realm for over 10 years 90% of my experience are positive, but when the boundaries are being pushed like I do,
one has to occasionally expect the opposite to the incredible love. .. and I'm glad of it,
I take it on the chin and get back on the horse, a slightly more humble man !! .
I'm not a casual traveler , I take this extremely seriously and the realm is fully aware of me .
The Realm is everything to me .

What I mean whan I say what happens in the Realm stays in the Realm .
Is something they have drilled into me over time . The information is not for this waking world , it's far beyond all our understanding and it's not a self help group or show and tell .

I don't need to understand
this is why I'm still welcomed in there .
It's just between me and the consciousness . The second I return in there its like I never left . Often we pick up where we left off .

Thanks. . I'm curious do you do DMT regularly?

 

[brettsta]

I'd kinda relate the Bottling it to be part of integration, if the moment is not right don't go in there.
Though there's only so many times you can make your own excuses because you are afraid, the build up to things is far worse than 'stepping off' this is my Bungee Jump Analogy.
Reducing the fear for me has been making my own DMT Vape Juice, playing with Syrian Rue, and very shortly I'll be adding FB Harmalas to my sessions. I'll be taking the Escalator rather than the Hyper-Lift!

The fear is good and healthy, it keeps out those who shouldn't be in there.