The ultimate truth: You can choose what to believe! Are you God of your own Life? Who is in control?

[Eden]

The further one ventures into hyperspace, the more evident this fact becomes. There is no ultimate truth, at least not in the absolute sense we desire it to be.

That being said, I do believe psychadelics have given me answers, but they pertain only to me in my currently finite perspective. They apply to no one else, and perhaps apply to no other time than the present.

DMT allows us to participate in the eternal mystery. To become a part of it. To realize that we are already a part of it. To realize that we have always been a part of it.

Well said.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

I’m speaking from my own experiences, but I’m sure others have come to a similar conclusion:

Some of us understand something very simple: there are no answers. There is only eternal mystery. DMT is not about getting answers, or having wishes fulfilled, or about changing the world. It’s definitely not about discovering (or being shown) “ultimate truths”.

DMT allows us to participate in the eternal mystery. To become a part of it. To realize that we are already a part of it. To realize that we have always been a part of it.

Very well put gibran2, I completely agree. I'd like to share a quote from Waking Life that I feel is very similar to this and exemplifies many of my feelings towards the molecule.

And this, this is like my little window to the world and every minute's a different show. Now, I may not understand it, I may not necessarily agree with it, but I'll tell you what, I accept it, just sort of glide along. You want to keep things on an even keel, I guess it's what I'm saying, you want to go with the flow. The sea refuses no river. The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving. Saves on introductions and good byes. The ride does not require an explanation, just occupants, that's where you guys come in. It's like you come onto this planet with a crayon box. Now you may get the eight pack, you may get the sixteen pack, but it's all in what you do with the crayons, the colors that you're given. And don't worry about drawing within the lines or coloring outside the lines, I say color outside the lines, you know what I mean? Color right off the page.

 

[Saidin]

I’m speaking from my own experiences, but I’m sure others have come to a similar conclusion:

Some of us understand something very simple: there are no answers. There is only eternal mystery. DMT is not about getting answers, or having wishes fulfilled, or about changing the world. It’s definitely not about discovering (or being shown) “ultimate truths”.

DMT allows us to participate in the eternal mystery. To become a part of it. To realize that we are already a part of it. To realize that we have always been a part of it.

Very well said.

 

[live]

This video is helpful for me to cope with the new awareness:

The Empathic Civilisation (RSAanimate)

 

[Virola78]

This video is helpful for me to cope with the new awareness:

The Empathic Civilisation (RSAanimate)

Very noble of you.
And very much inline whith what cellux has to say about it:

Let's assume there are numerous possible configurations available. Through our experiments, we are trying to find the best configuration possible. Each such configuration is put to a test in everyday life. Beliefs in smurf mythology may also be accepted as a good configuration if that makes our reality workable (supplies us with usable ideas that let us work with the problems our reality throws at us). Our physical reality provides us with the testing lab.

Perhaps there is a philosophy which is "endogenous" to the human body (mind), just like DMT is. If we can uncover that, and use that as our reality controller, then our realities may become "aligned" with Reality. That's what we are searching for here.

There might not be any absolute, constant truth for us to understand, as we are humans on earth now. But a relative, ever growing 'truth' can be useful still, as the RSA video points out. Im thinking it is all we will ever have, since we are not able as a species to grasp/understand 'all at once'.

The possibility of 'smurfs', or 'santa claus is real' can be considered 'less usefull' or at least 'less interesting' to be explored in depth. The perennial philosophy on the other hand is much more interesting when it comes to pratical use and evolving as a species on earth, in a cosmos.

 

[live]

SWIM has found his way back to normal and has become a better human. The whole experience was a hard core upgrade!
SWIM shares his story with the community to help others to go through their experience easier.


1st July: SWIM did his most horrifying DMT experience after many great breakthroughs and visitations in hyperspace worlds. He thought that hyperspace teachers punished him for coming back to soon (SWIM had an agreement with himself to not trip anymore till a specific date he chose).

2nd July: SWIM feels confusion and is unsure what he has experienced. SWIM started even to assume that hyperspace beings took him to their dimension. And to make the transition more pleasant, they have copied the physical reality of SWIM from his own memory. A theory started to grow that SWIM has died in his world and now lives in another with the illusion that this was just a DMT trip.

3rd July: SWIM feels high like on ecstasy. He feels like everything is possible for him. He feels like his whole life was a dream and now the dream has become lucid. He started a flirt with a beautiful girl in a train full of people. Before the trip this would cost much of effort for SWIM because he would worry much about judgment of other people around him.

4th July: SWIM gets an illusion that he has figured it out. He is God having multiple dreams at the same time in the world he created himself. He is just an observer of himself.

5th July: SWIM feels sure to have discovered the ultimate truth. He decides to share this truth with the community.

6th July: SWIM wakes up early at night depressive. All his beliefs seem to be gone. He cannot grasp on any belief! As soon as he decides to believe something he literally witnesses his brain reinforcing that belief, offering more supporting arguments. If SWIM believes he is in the wrong world, this belief is reinforced. If SWIM believes that he is dreaming, that is reinforced too. One cannot imagine how horrifying this experience is just by reading it! SWIM must think of the film Vanilla Sky where Cruse discovers that he was dreaming all the time and can end the dream by jumping from the roof. This theory gets reinforced and SWIM believed that he can go back to his previous life by committing suicide! This is where it gets really dangerous. At this point it is extremely important to talk to people who will validate you that they are not product of your imagination.

7th July: SWIM still feels strong depression. He threw away DMT and everything connected to it. He still experiences himself as God and one with everything and very alone! He feels that whatever he wants he can achieve. But he is completely alone. There is no one who will appreciate his achievements. When he talks to other people, he feels like talking to himself in the most literal sense, and this is a horrifying experience! It gets worse when SWIM realizes that he might never get back to his previous state of awareness. A theory arises that the only solution is to start a new life which allows SWIM to forget what he knows (suicidal thoughts again). However, SWIM does not feel completed with his story. He also do not want to risk killing himself, since there are many people who love him and will miss him (while still thinking that he might be in some wrong version of reality or parallel universe). He starts to doubt the reality of his experience and diagnoses drug psychosis. He visits a psychiatrist who demonstrates ignorance and complete disinterest on the horrible condition of SWIM. He listened and tried to apply some scientific theory he has learnt. This was not helpful at all, even worse, SWIM understood at this point that even a professional cannot help him and he must deal with his awareness completely alone!

During this depressive state, SWIM felt like the Devil offered him a choice to come to another dimension (or to stay there, because he is already in that other dimension), where he could get everything he wanted immediately. SWIM declined. The Devil declined the decline of SWIM and offered a deal: SWIM must offer a sacrifice worth enough to put SWIM back into his previous condition. By the way, SWIM is stunned by the reality of the concept of the Devil he knows from films but never thought that there is some reality to it. At first, SWIM thought that he must offer a sacrifice and searched eagerly for an offer. But then he stopped and felt that he is not obligated to do any deals like others do in films. He boldly told the Devil to fuck off! (These are all thought processes in SWIM’s head.)

8th July: SWIM informs the forum about his condition. Thanks a lot for the supporting private messages he has received! SWIM is not religious but decides to pray to Jesus and ask him for forgiveness. A new theory: Satan is the full awareness. The whole story about Satan is a trick to prevent humans from getting the full awareness. That is why religious people thought in ancient times that any scientific discovery, like Earth is a sphere, is evil. In our time, religious people will probably tell you that drugs in general are evil and a creation of Satan to seduce humans. SWIM asks for forgiveness, asks to forget. SWIM cries a lot. SWIM tells his parents how much he loves them (they do not know what was going on). SWIM builds a theory that Bible is there to confuse people in such a way that they never discover truth. Life is a mystery and should be enjoyed, not decrypted. Some doors should not be opened.

Past meridian SWIM started to feel high, very similar to an ecstasy high. He started to become anxious that he might burn his chemicals in the brain responsible for feeling happy and never feel happy again. This fear is reinforced and SWIM feels depression and high at the same time which was very unpleasant.

9th July: After reading the Bible and praying to his subconscious mind to give him a solution, he finally receives it. This is the key and a very important realization: We are perspectives, points of views! Every human is a perspective consisting not only of his senses, but also his story and a belief system that filters the input from his senses. Thus, SWIM is not God and thus not alone. What he experienced is a perspective which might be called God perspective, but SWIM doubts that. It was rather the perspective of his higher mind, or at best the perspective of the human collective consciousness. This is so liberating! SWIM has deleted many of his written goals about big money because this has become irrelevant. SWIM recognized that he had and has always enough! SWIM recognized how great the idea of imperfection is, how boring life experience would be if he was perfect. SWIM started to enjoy failures, as they assured him that he is in the right world, not in his lucid dream where everything happens according to his will. SWIM enjoys the moment of now more now. He still feels "high", he feels a light in his chest. He is familiar with the idea of chakra points; may be his heart chakra opened. SWIM does not want to be super human or better than others. He embraces his imperfections and is glad to not be able to do everything and not to get everything he wants.


Conclusion

After nine days of up and down, SWIM came back to his more or less normal life. He became definitely a better more loving person, more aware of his environment and people surrounding him. He understood that while there is some objectivity to our physical reality, our perception of it is subjective, and every perspective has to be honored and respected.

In contradiction to the topic title:
There is no ultimate truth!
There are perspectives and ideas. There is a lot of subjectivity to any truth.

Often enough, SWIM attempted to enlighten other people, especially his friends and relatives, by telling them his truth as it was the truth. He wanted to raise their consciousness. Now he understands experientially that this was a wrong behavior, as every perspective and consciousness level has to be respected.

Life is a mystery. It is not to be figured out but to be enjoyed.


Judgment Day Theory

There is a theory that approaching 2012, the energy field of the Earth will raise, causing pineal gland in the brain to produce DMT in an awakened state. If this theory is true, we will have mass psychosis on the planet! Many people are completely unprepared for that! Just imagine a person who has amassed material riches all his life rubbing other people experiences his oneness with these people, he experiences the truth that we are one entity, that he has done bad not to others but to himself. And the worst of all, no one can explain to him what he is experiencing! He has to deal with that on his own! Looks like the true judgment day to SWIM.

 

[cellux]

SWIM has found his way back to normal and has become a better human. The whole experience was a hard core upgrade!

I'm so glad to hear that. This was a great forward leap for you, I'm sure.

And to make the transition more pleasant, they have copied the physical reality of SWIM from his own memory. A theory started to grow that SWIM has died in his world and now lives in another with the illusion that this was just a DMT trip.

Precisely what I believed after my first (LSD) trip. I just accepted that this is so and tried to recreate the new world in the best possible way. For example, instead of getting lost in paranoia, the first thing I did was to get a shower. Then I went out to the morning garden bare-foot and picked some fruits from the apple tree. All the while immersed in the meaning of it all, marveling at the depth in symbolic meaning of *every act we ever do*.

As soon as he decides to believe something he literally witnesses his brain reinforcing that belief, offering more supporting arguments.

That's sweet. Very sweet. What a learning experience.

 

[cellux]

In our time, religious people will probably tell you that drugs in general are evil and a creation of Satan to seduce humans.

As soon as they realize what psychedelic drugs are really about (now they are completely ignorant so they don't care), they will fight it tooth and nail.

 

[cellux]

But he is completely alone. There is no one who will appreciate his achievements. ... A theory arises that the only solution is to start a new life which allows SWIM to forget what he knows (suicidal thoughts again). However, SWIM does not feel completed with his story. He also do not want to risk killing himself, since there are many people who love him and will miss him (while still thinking that he might be in some wrong version of reality or parallel universe).

Movie recommendation: Serial Experiments: Lain (anime series).

 

[cellux]

SWIM builds a theory that Bible is there to confuse people in such a way that they never discover truth.

I prefer the following story: First it was clean and true, then came the bad people who contaminated it (whatever that means), therefore spreading confusion. But it turns out, that the confusion this generated was necessary for people to feel there is a need to put things back to order again, and therefore the contamination was an indirect cause of the ascension. The word outside was taken away, so that the light inside can be found (and from that, a new word emanated - if necessary).

 

[cellux]

He started to become anxious that he might burn his chemicals in the brain responsible for feeling happy and never feel happy again. This fear is reinforced and SWIM feels depression and high at the same time which was very unpleasant.

This is how I feel when I take MDMA. Makes enjoying it a bit difficult. So ambivalent.

 

[cellux]

We are perspectives, points of views! Every human is a perspective consisting not only of his senses, but also his story and a belief system that filters the input from his senses.

The joy of limitations... I'm glad you learned to appreciate this. You went really far with this!

An extra idea: now that you see that, you may also appreciate this saying of the Buddha that "Absolute Reality is that only Subjective Reality exists."

And that being 100% enlightened may mean to 100% fulfill one's own parcel of the whole. Being 100% in ones subjective version of the world.

And leave that "final unity" to the grace of God.

 

[cellux]

Often enough, SWIM attempted to enlighten other people, especially his friends and relatives, by telling them his truth as it was the truth. He wanted to raise their consciousness. Now he understands experientially that this was a wrong behavior, as every perspective and consciousness level has to be respected.

Let me remark here, that if you really respect every point of view then you should also respect if somebody finds it necessary to "enlighten" others... Which means you can actually forgive your old self. I found that the key is understanding. If one understands that each of us is one perspective from *all* the possible perspectives (not just the good ones), then it's much easier to be compassionate.

 

[Saidin]

Let me remark here, that if you really respect every point of view then you should also respect if somebody finds it necessary to "enlighten" others... Which means you can actually forgive your old self. I found that the key is understanding. If one understands that each of us is one perspective from *all* the possible perspectives (not just the good ones), then it's much easier to be compassionate.

In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of Karma.

 

[Apoc]

There is a theory that approaching 2012, the energy field of the Earth will raise, causing pineal gland in the brain to produce DMT in an awakened state. If this theory is true, we will have mass psychosis on the planet! Many people are completely unprepared for that! Just imagine a person who has amassed material riches all his life rubbing other people experiences his oneness with these people, he experiences the truth that we are one entity, that he has done bad not to others but to himself. And the worst of all, no one can explain to him what he is experiencing! He has to deal with that on his own! Looks like the true judgment day to SWIM.

I don't believe that will happen at all, but do you really think it would cause mass psychosis if it did? It seems like most people who do dmt realizes truths they never thought possible, and yet in short time, most seem to undeniably come out better on the other side. Like you did. If there was some big dmt surge, it would probably be the biggest emotional outburst the world has ever seen.

Looks like we got some Christianity conversions going on in the nexus.

 

[corpus callosum]

I think that DMT should serve to simply increase ones humility by showing the user that there is SO SO much that they cannot conceive of.We may be the brightest life-form here by a good stretch but in the overall scheme of things, this cannot lead to the conclusion that we are God (and I dont mean that in the literal 'offensive to religious people' sense).

I also believe that this compound MUST be respected for many reasons, not least of which is its capacity to inspire what feel like certainties in the user.There are only 2 certainties that Im aware of:

1.Our limited understanding which can never become all-embracing and comprehensive;

2.Death.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

There is a theory that approaching 2012, the energy field of the Earth will raise, causing pineal gland in the brain to produce DMT in an awakened state. If this theory is true, we will have mass psychosis on the planet! Many people are completely unprepared for that! Just imagine a person who has amassed material riches all his life rubbing other people experiences his oneness with these people, he experiences the truth that we are one entity, that he has done bad not to others but to himself. And the worst of all, no one can explain to him what he is experiencing! He has to deal with that on his own! Looks like the true judgment day to SWIM.

I don't believe that will happen at all, but do you really think it would cause mass psychosis if it did? It seems like most people who do dmt realizes truths they never thought possible, and yet in short time, most seem to undeniably come out better on the other side. Like you did. If there was some big dmt surge, it would probably be the biggest emotional outburst the world has ever seen.

fnog9, I agree with you very strongly. DMT feels too natural, too connected to the Human experience. Additionally, live, seeing as the pineal gland doesn't (can't) produce DMT, this is a pretty far-fetched theory.

 

[Virola78]

..Looks like we got some Christianity conversions going on in the nexus.

Not at all.
Though interesting to see evolution and merging of belief systems.

Most of the discussions here at the nexus do not reach a consensus. The sought for thruth is therefore not black and white.
But our opinions change during these discussions. Even only reading them will change your opinion. The accents will shift, and perhaps new perspectives come into play.

It is not that i am converted to christianity because of good arguments brought up by someone. And it is not that someone will abandon christianity because of good arguments i might bring up, against christianity. Still, in the proces of the discussion we will both change our view on the matter. Just by talking about it. And as a result at least, we understand more of each other and ourselves as humans on earth, which is the common denominator. Which brings us closer together, which is, i hope we can all agree on that, very much necesary in this world of different and conflicting cultures.

Christianity is less black-white as it may seem. One could look at the bigger context where all religions, philosophies, beliefsystems share there part. Here christianity is (just) another voice. One that should be heared and spoken. We dont need to change or convert. But we do need to evolve. And this is more difficult when things are kept in the dark.

So may the light shine upon you

 

[Hux]

Wakey wakey, rise and shine!
No! Let me go back to sleep!

 

[live]

The ultimate truth SWIM thought to discover along with other fellows who consume DMT and/or create insightful YouTube-Videos turned out to be quite the opposite: the ultimate ignorance. DMT did not show SWIM the ultimate truth but uncovered a belief of him implanted from the outside!


The belief is "You are God". The film "Inception" helped SWIM to recognize this belief as an inception implanted mainly by authors of "The Secret" and "Conversations with God" who teach this truth directly or indirectly! Believers of the "law of attraction" and "you are God" theory are all heading for their worst nightmare! Be patient and at least give yourself a chance to consider an alternate perspective.

Question: "What is “The Secret”? What is the law of attraction?"

Answer: The Secret – www.thesecret.tv – also known as the “law of attraction,” is the idea that because of our connection with a “universal energy force,” our thoughts and feelings have the ability to manipulate this energy force to our liking. According to “The Secret,” our thoughts and feelings attract a corresponding energy to ourselves. If our thoughts are negative, we attract negative things. If our feelings are positive, we attract positive things. The essential message of “The Secret” is that we all have the power to determine our own destiny. We can all create our own reality. Through fully and consistently applying the “law of attraction,” we can be who we want to be and have everything we want to have.

Is there any truth to “The Secret”? Is there any validity to the law of attraction? As with most other popular ideas, “The Secret” has a nugget of truth that is expanded to unbiblical and illogical extremes. For example, a thesis of the law of attraction is that our physical health is determined by our thoughts and feelings. It has been medically proven that stress and worry are harmful to the body, while joy and peace actually aid in the healing process. The Bible agrees, “A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones” (Proverbs 17:22). “A cheerful look brings joy to the heart, and good news gives health to the bones” (Proverbs 15:30). As David was struggling with the guilt of his unconfessed, evil actions, he declared, “When I kept silent, my bones wasted away through my groaning all day long” (Psalm 32:3). Our thoughts and feelings do have an impact on our physical well-being. However, this is due to how God designed our bodies…not because of our connection with a universal energy force and our negativity or positivity attracting negative or positive physical symptoms.

A second error in the “law of attraction” is its emphasis on money and wealth. The Bible has much to say regarding wealth and the management of money and resources. Proverbs 13:11 exclaims, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” Similarly, Proverbs 17:16 proclaims, “Of what use is money in the hand of a fool, since he has no desire to get wisdom?” Our financial success is determined by our decisions, our hard work, and our wise stewardship of what we have. No matter how positive our thoughts and how focused our mind is on wealth, if we have built mountains of debt, the bills will continue to come (Proverbs 22:7). The only impact the secret of “positive thinking” can have on our financial situation is in motivating us to work harder and spend more wisely. The Secret—and its focus on achieving wealth—goes directly against the teachings of the Bible. Solomon, the wisest and richest man in the Bible, observed, “Whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income. This too is meaningless” (Ecclesiastes 5:10). Jesus, who possessed everything, warned us, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions” (Luke 12:15). First Timothy 6:10 could not say it any more clearly, “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”

With that said, the primary error of “The Secret” / law of attraction is its view, or lack thereof, of God. In the law of attraction, God, if He even exists, is nothing more than a universal energy force that we manipulate by our thoughts and feelings. The law of attraction assumes a pantheistic (God is everything) view of God. The Secret denies the ideas of a personal God (with thoughts, feelings, and emotions) and a sovereign God (omnipotent and omniscient, perfectly in control of everything). The core message of “The Secret” is that we are in control of our own destiny. God knows the truth to be very different, “…All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be” (Psalm 139:16). Nebuchadnezzar, the greatest king of ancient Babylon and a prime candidate for someone who would know “The Secret,” declared, “Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified Him who lives forever. His dominion is an eternal dominion; His kingdom endures from generation to generation. All the peoples of the earth are regarded as nothing. He does as He pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth. No one can hold back His hand or say to Him: ‘What have you done?’” (Daniel 4:34-35).

According to the proponents of the law of attraction, we are all “incarnations of God.” We are all our own gods, able to create our own reality, able to control our own destiny. This lie is not a secret, and it is nothing new. Satan’s primary temptation has always been to obtain knowledge and thereby to become like God, “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God…” (Genesis 3:5). Satan’s own fall from glory was this same error, “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High’” (Isaiah 14:13-14). The message of “The Secret” is the same message that Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve into sin: “You do not need God…you can be God!” And just as Satan will fail in his quest to be God (Isaiah 14:15; Revelation 20:10), so too will all those who seek to be their own god will fail: “'You are "gods" … but you will die like mere men…” (Psalm 82:6-7).

The true “secret” is that God is in control. God has a sovereign and perfect plan for us. The key is getting in tune with God, thereby understanding His heart and knowing His will. Rather than seeking after wealth, fame, power, and pleasure (in which there is nothing but emptiness), we are to seek a relationship with God, allowing Him to place His perfect desires in our heart and mind, conforming our feelings to His – and then granting us the desire of His, and our, hearts. “Delight yourself in the LORD and He will give you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the LORD; trust in Him and He will do this: He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn, the justice of your cause like the noonday sun” (Psalm 37:4-6).

Source: What is “The Secret”? What is the law of attraction? | GotQuestions.org

Yet another article which points out the satanism behind "The Secret":

The Secret Seduction

The latest occult scam to capture the imagination of the West is called The Secret. The book by that name, a top New York Times bestseller, has quickly sold more than 6 million copies and the DVD over

www.thebereancall.org

It is not too late to turn the wheel...