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Infowars

Infowars

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Well, tonight is going to be my first time attempting to reach hyperspace. I think I have everything in order but had just a few questions:

1. Here's a picture of my spice. I extracted it using the quick tek and freeze precipitated it several times to get it whiter. Does this look suitable for smoking?

Spice2.jpg


2. I'm going to be using a glass vaporgenie. I've been told to put 5 screens in, then a leaf of parsely, then the dmt, followed by another parsely leaf to make a sort of dmt parsley sandwhich. Does this sound appropriate?

3. What kind of dose should I take. I've heard people say anything from 20mg - 100mg but what would you suggest for a muscular guy of 200-230lbs?

4. If I don't breakthrough should I up the dose and try again a little while later?

Thanks in advance for all of your help,

Info
 
1- yes
2- no need for the top layer of parsley
3- try 40mg
4- yes, up it to 50mg

safe travels bro, and remember to smile.
 
Infowars said:
Well, tonight is going to be my first time attempting to reach hyperspace. I think I have everything in order but had just a few questions:

1. Here's a picture of my spice. I extracted it using the quick tek and freeze precipitated it several times to get it whiter. Does this look suitable for smoking?

Spice2.jpg


2. I'm going to be using a glass vaporgenie. I've been told to put 5 screens in, then a leaf of parsely, then the dmt, followed by another parsely leaf to make a sort of dmt parsley sandwhich. Does this sound appropriate?

3. What kind of dose should I take. I've heard people say anything from 20mg - 100mg but what would you suggest for a muscular guy of 200-230lbs?

4. If I don't breakthrough should I up the dose and try again a little while later?

Thanks in advance for all of your help,

Info
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Welcome to the club Info!!You will not regret taking the step into the other side.
1)That looks like some nice spice..way nicer than my first extraction.
2)that method seems sound..you shouldn't have a problem!
3)A good dose for me is approx. 60 mg, but if you don't want to jump right into the deep end, start with a smaller dose, and work up..No matter what you hear or read 30 minutes between trips is plenty..as DMT clears the system VERY quickly.
4)If you are open and take enough breakthrough will come to you!!

Most of all Let go and SMILE!!You have found the substance that other substances wish they could be!!
 
Infowars,

Good journeys to you tonight.

IMHO:

1.) Looks great.

2.) I bet this would work just fine. I personally prefer changa, which is an enhanced leaf mix. Requires DMT+solvent+herbs, then wait a few days for complete dryness, etc. Many useful changa recipes on the Nexus.

3.) Very first time? I would respectfully suggest pre-dosing with about 20 mg. Ready for the breakthrough? 40-50 mg for an initial attempt.

4.) Depends on timing. If you wait a short while (5-15 mins), you may not need to up the dose - in fact they may stack a bit. If you wait upwards of an hour, you are starting from scratch.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
So I just finished my first attempt...I started with about 25mg (I'm not 100% because my scale is only accurate in measures of 50mg, so I just cut it in about half) I didn't feel much at all. After my first hit I thought things sounded a little stranger than before, especially my voice. My head also felt a bit of a rush, sort of like getting high but different. After 25mg didn't seem to do much, I doubled the dose to 50mg. After three hoots on it it seemed to do the same thing as before but more intense. But nothing overwhelmingly dramatic as I've been reading should happen. Where should I go from here? Up the dose again? Or perhaps I'm doing it wrong? Should I cook it longer with the lighter? How good is it after it melts? I seemed to be able to get more hits off of the same bowl after it had melted.

Thanks in advance for all of your help,
 
50mg should be more than enough to take you to the Furthest Reaches, so it is likely your smoking technique needs some tweaking. You should be getting everything into the lungs in three full body hits, ie Long and slow pulls on the GVG, holding it in as long as you can, say 20 seconds or so.
 
Are you holding that rip in for a while, like about 20sec? If you take a first deep long rip, by the time you are finishing the first rip you should already start to see and feel the strong effects take hold, even more so when you exhale.
 
Heat it gently till it vaporizes. Then take your hit(s) and ...like gammagore said - hold them in until you're not breakthing out any vapor at all! everything needs to be absorbed. You can't puff on it ...deeeeeep lungfuls and hold them in until everything is absorbed. If it hurts really bad, you've burnt your spice, rendering it inactive.
 
Did you close those peepers?

Sometimes if your eyes are open things tend to just look all shiney and brand new... whilst a whole world opens up behind closed eyelids. Saying that though, 50mg of the pure should yank you right out this reality either way.

I'd defo try again using the techniques mentioned above.

Peace!
 
Hey guys, another less than successful report I'm afraid... I tried again, taking long deep breaths and experienced almost less than before. I used 50mg twice and at the very most at one point felt like my heart started beating faster, with a strange feeling in the centre of my torso and in my head. Those feelings only lasted maybe one minute and were exactly what I felt yesterday during my first attempt. And when I closed my eyes at that point I didn't see much at all. After every other hit I had virtually nothing, I was still there just sitting on my couch smoking.

I'm starting to think I'm missing something here; could someone please explain in detail the steps I should be taking, as you would maybe to a child (because i'm clearly missing the boat on a big part of it)? I thought I understood but clearly I don't.

I'll explain what I was doing so that you might be able to correct me easier: I began by slowly heating the bowl without drawing on it. After about 10-20 seconds, I didn't see the spice changing shape, vaporizing, melting at all, so I started to draw on it a little bit slowly (still torching it) until it sort of melted and maybe vaporized a bit. Then I took a long slow hit and held it for a good 20 seconds. I exhaled and repeated these steps 2 more times. Nothing. The fourth time I tried I got much stronger black smoke and it tasted pretty awful (I'm assuming I burnt my spice at that point).

Do I keep torching while I'm inhaling or do I stop once it's vaporized a bit? Should I see it melt down to a gooey form? Some of the melted goo turned pretty brown, does that mean I'm burning it? I'm determined to get this right. Thanks again for any help you can offer.
 
How about putting a thin disc of copper mesh on top of a single screen in your Glass Vapor Genie? This is what I do, and it works great. It increases the surface area tremendously and prevents spice from flowing past the screen(s).

Just be sure to burn off any residue on the copper mesh before using.

Also, I torch for the entire duration, but increase the flame to bowl distance if things seem like they’re getting too hot.

One of my early mistakes with the GVG was holding the torch on an angle relative to the bowl – most of the heat was directed toward the glass sidewall instead of the ceramic diffuser. Hold the flame so that it’s straight over the ceramic diffuser and you’ll get rapid very effective vaporization.
 
Load the VG with 5-7 screens.

A layer of herb goes ontop of the screens. Then the Spice.

Ceramic filter is then put on.

As you put the lit torch lighter towards the ceramic filter, thats when you want to start drawing in air through the VG, slowly. The spice should start to vaporize within a few seconds. Keep the flame on it till you are nearly out of breath, when you are nearly out of breath then take the flame away and finish the rip.

Hold in the rip for about 20sec. Repeat till there is no more vapor or until you arent able to.

There should be no black smoke, only white cloudy looking smoke. do you see any vapor being drawn though the VG? what did the herb look like afterwards? Burned? or just less color than when you started?
 
Hmmm, that seems to be pretty much what I did. Is it possible something is wrong with my spice? Does the strange feeling in the torso and head sound normal?

I'm able to see some white vapor but not very much. Nothing compared to when I smoke Ganga through my deluxe daddy.

Here's a picture of my herb after smoking. You can see where the spice melted on top of it:

Herbafter.jpg


Thanks again guys. Especially you, gamma. I can always count on you for a quick reply and it's greatly appreciated.
 
Is that dry or was it freashly picked for this purpose, did you let it dry before use?

You should have seen vapor the same, if not more that when you smoke weed through it.
 
It's not dry. It was fresh out of the fridge for this purpose. I'm assuming that's where I faltered?
 
yip, that sounds like the only wrong doing here. I suppose thats why the leaf there looks so shinny, try lighting a bit of it and check what it smells like,actually nevermind that, I can see alot of molecule there still.

Use dried up herb, chopped to smoking consistency. So you dont want a big ol wet leaf sitting at the bottom of the bowl. And you might aswell chop up that piece of parsley, and vape that and see if anything comes off. Waste not want not.

So when you have the dry chopped up herb, lay that down ontop the 5-7 screens, make sure it covers the whole of the bottom of the VG.
 
Fresh herbs will absorb most of the heat (converting water to steam).

As for multiple screens with dried herb vs. a copper mesh disc on a single screen with no herb, I can only say that the mesh works very well – it has a large surface area and limits the amount of DMT that flows toward the sides of the bowl.

With only screens it seems that a sizeable portion of DMT will flow toward the cooler glass. gammagore – do you notice residue crystallizing inside the bowl after use?
 
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