Total Newbie, not trying to extract but trying to experience… if that’s even possible

[Nari]

Hey my names Nari, and I’m looking to simply get the materials to have an experience, I’m not really trying to grow or extract- [MOD EDIT: No sourcing talk!] I just want to make the process as simple as possible. But I’m new here and hey- if anyone could help me that’d be appreciated.

 

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Welcome to the Nexus, Nari.

Please familiarize yourself with the Attitude page: Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

Sourcing is not allowed here. There is a lot of information about how to extract, and we are always willing to help. But we absolutely won't help or talk about how to "get" anything, that's not what the Nexus is about.

If you aren't willing to put some effort and learn to extract (which is much easier than it may seem), I don't think you will be ready to handle such a potent psychedelic. So I encourage you to reconsider and give a chance to extracting your own, or abandon the idea altogether.

 

[Pandora]

Nari,

Welcome to the Nexus.

Can you cook a dinner from scratch by following directions?

Have you succeeded at assembling Ikea furniture by following the directions?

If you can honestly answer yes to either or both of these questions and you are quite capable of extracting your own medicine.

I would recommend you study up. Check some of the straight to base (STB) teks (recipes) in the wiki link above the forum.

The spice that you extract yourself will be the strongest and cleanest you will ever experience.

It is so special and so good it really is worth the effort.

I am glad you signed up and I hope you find what you seek here.

 

[Jamie01]

Extracting DMT definitely does not make one ready to use it or mean that person will ever really feel comfortable with the experience. At the same time I have known people who would never put in that effort and have deep trips and are definitely ready for DMT. There’s tons of reasons why ppl can’t extract and that’s fine leave at that. Don’t insult people and act like they just aren’t ready because they aren’t extracting illegal drugs like other people. It’s elitist and it’s not true.

 

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Extracting DMT definitely does not make one ready to use it or mean that person will ever really feel comfortable with the experience. At the same time I have known people who would never put in that effort and have deep trips and are definitely ready for DMT. There’s tons of reasons why ppl can’t extract and that’s fine leave at that. Don’t insult people and act like they just aren’t ready because they aren’t extracting illegal drugs like other people. It’s elitist and it’s not true.

You seem to be missing that the original post was a sourcing post essentially saying "I'm not trying to put in any effort, just tell me where to buy DMT", not someone just saying they don't want to or can't extract.

If you do think that's an attitude conductive to a responsible use of DMT, great. I don't, and I said so. I don't see how that's an insult.

Extracting DMT definitely does not make one ready to use it or mean that person will ever really feel comfortable with the experience

I didn't say that it does.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Extracting DMT definitely does not make one ready to use it or mean that person will ever really feel comfortable with the experience. At the same time I have known people who would never put in that effort and have deep trips and are definitely ready for DMT. There’s tons of reasons why ppl can’t extract and that’s fine leave at that. Don’t insult people and act like they just aren’t ready because they aren’t extracting illegal drugs like other people. It’s elitist and it’s not true.

Has the rhetoric you're responding to offended you in the past, because similar statements have been made a cornucopia of times.

One love

 

[Voidmatrix]

Hey my names Nari, and I’m looking to simply get the materials to have an experience, I’m not really trying to grow or extract- [MOD EDIT: No sourcing talk!] I just want to make the process as simple as possible. But I’m new here and hey- if anyone could help me that’d be appreciated.

Perhaps you can help me help you. We cannot help you source it. We can help with extraction. How do you think we can best assist you?

One love

 

[Panpsychic]

Extracting DMT definitely does not make one ready to use it or mean that person will ever really feel comfortable with the experience. At the same time I have known people who would never put in that effort and have deep trips and are definitely ready for DMT. There’s tons of reasons why ppl can’t extract and that’s fine leave at that. Don’t insult people and act like they just aren’t ready because they aren’t extracting illegal drugs like other people. It’s elitist and it’s not true.

Absolutely yes, and the idea that having some proficiency in backdoor garage chemistry is in any way correlated with ability to or preparedness for having the experience is a laughable and ridiculous notion that I have never heard of until now.

I would venture that of the people who use DMT, the percentage who 'do their own extractions' is probably less than 5%. If you do , then good for you. If not there are other means but that is, as mentioned time again, not a discussion for this site if it wants to continue existing and the OP was obviously under some naivete to think otherwise.

 

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Absolutely yes, and the idea that having some proficiency in backdoor garage chemistry is in any way correlated with ability to or preparedness for having the experience is a laughable and ridiculous notion that I have never heard of until now.

You should thank @Jamie01 for mentioning that idea, as no one else has mentioned it here.

"If it's not cloudy it won't rain" doesn't mean the same as "if it's cloudy it will rain". But if it comforts you to believe that I claimed that extracting DMT means you are prepared for the experience, go ahead.

and the OP was obviously under some naivete to think otherwise

The OP had confirmed to have read the Attitude while making an account just before making a post asking for Telegram channels to buy 1g DMT, I wouldn't call that naiveté.

The user wasn't banned even after posting again asking for sources again (after being warned). What's the problem here? The claim that someone with that attitude is probably not in a good place to be taking powerful psychoactive substances?

I will say again that I believe so, and I don't mind if other people disagree or are outraged by this quite mild opinion. However all this outrage is not even being directed at my opinion but at something that nobody said, so the issue is probably of a psychological nature. Nothing I can do about that!

 

[Voidmatrix]

This site, for a variety of reasons, has always advocated for extracting your own. If you really want it, and want to have peace of mind knowing where it comes from (you) then invest the time and effort to extract. That is the message of this forum. If you do so, it is a way of "earning" it and one ought to bask in their hard earned laurels. There's no elitism. We're just not going to help you buy it and we're going to encourage you to extract it yourself.

This isn't new.

One love

 

[hugfortysix]

the idea that having some proficiency in backdoor garage chemistry is in any way correlated with ability to or preparedness

I have no real understanding of chemistry but i can make a curry from a recipe and I do see how some people are more suited to tripping than others, whether they have extracted or not, but speaking personally, i would say that the act of extracting is beneficial towards a fruitful experience. I know that the gear is clean and where it came from and ive done the work. Kind of like getting your house in order before you trip.
I try not to take it all seriously and wouldn't call myself a psychedelic elitist but at the same time having respect for the product/experience. And producing it one's self is a part of that respect for me..

 

[Transform]

I wouldn't sweat it, the OP doesn't appear to have returned since their original visit back in January ('26, at least )

 

[Panpsychic]

This site, for a variety of reasons, has always advocated for extracting your own.

Indeed. Not being shut down for advocating other means would probably rank pretty highly also.

If you really want it, and want to have peace of mind knowing where it comes from (you) then invest the time and effort to extract.

I suppose I have never had that paranoia regarding this issue, just like I don't have when I trust sources if I go to a restaurant or supermarket or get hold of medications without having produced them myself. I suppose if your only alternatives were dubious sources though it would give one some needed reassurance.

If you do so, it is a way of "earning" it and one ought to bask in their hard earned laurels.

Yes, by all means bask if its something you wish to do. For me it would simply be a means to an end. But I am by no means advocating against basking if thats your thing.

speaking personally, i would say that the act of extracting is beneficial towards a fruitful experience. I know that the gear is clean and where it came from and ive done the work. Kind of like getting your house in order before you trip.
I try not to take it all seriously and wouldn't call myself a psychedelic elitist but at the same time having respect for the product/experience. And producing it one's self is a part of that respect for me..

Thats cool and I get that. I think that would vary between people. Personally, having both grown my own shrooms in the past as well as picking them from nature for tripping, neither really made any discernable difference to me in terms of the reverence or appreciation of the experience compared to when I procured them through other means.
There was definitely a sense of personal satisfaction and independence in getting it myself, but this had no fundamental bearing on the experience for me. So great, I get that extracting can be a worthwhile and meaningful endeavour, just as I am sure picking or even growing the source material like MHRB would be even more so.

 

[Voidmatrix]

I suppose I have never had that paranoia regarding this issue

Is it really paranoia when you're compared a regulated market to the black market?

You don't forget the first time you were attacked at the watering hole. People you tell won't forget either.

Yes, by all means bask if its something you wish to do. For me it would simply be a means to an end. But I am by no means advocating against basking if thats your thing.

I'm speaking in terms of the general spirit of the Nexus and the subject in question, not personally. It is definitely a means to an end.

So great, I get that extracting can be a worthwhile and meaningful endeavour, just as I am sure picking or even growing the source material like MHRB would be even more so.

But that isn't the main thrust of encouraging people to extract their own discouraging sourcing of anything but live plants. Safety. Keep everyone safe. Keep yourself safe (and not just with regards to drugs, but also who we interact with because of drugs or our desires for them), and keep the site safe.

One love

 

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This is not going anywhere, I'm locking it. Also, a reminder that any discussion directly or indirectly related to buying DMT is not allowed.

If anyone involved is interested in continuing the discussion on any of the other topics brought up here in more general terms, feel free to make a new thread for it.