Trichocereus ID

[boogerz]

San Pedro in Peru

 

[xram]

Here are two pics of an unknown pachanoi my friend has (first of the rooted cutting, second of 4" pup being prepped for rooting). I suspect it is pc pach, but I wanted to make sure before I tell him to clear room in his garden for other things. The pachanoi does not have the little 'notches' above the areoles like his torch (macrogonus?) from the same vendor, a rooted pup of which is also pictured here, so I think he's probably out of luck on this one. Are there real pachanoi that don't have the notches?

Would love your thoughts about these plants and which deserve to keep a place in his small collection.

 

[dg]

looks like 3 different plants..?
1st is pc with possible scale
2nd (seems different than 1 or 3)
2nd and 3rd should stay in the garden

 

[xram]

Hey dg,

The plant in the 2nd pic is a pup from the one in the 1st. I posted it because the mother plant (pic 1) came in bad shape and this makes it a little harder to identify. If you're sure the plant in pic 1 is a pc, then the plant in the 2nd pic is too - it's just too young to be able to tell yet, probably. If you were my friend, though, you wouldn't bother with them?

The 3rd plant is a "peruvianus" (possible t. macrogonus) that my friend got from the same vendor. I only posted it for a comparison since it has the little notches above the areoles, which as I understand it are indicative of the non-pc varieties and are lacking on my friend's pachanoi. It is certainly staying in the garden for the foreseeable future.

 

[hostilis]

Yeah, the first two look like pc to me as well.

 

[dg]

No- id still grow it.
I just wouldn't keep the older scarred up one...

 

[Nathaniel]

Can someone definitely identify these cacti for me?

These were sold as Bridgesii and got good reviews, whatever that's worth. They arrived quite hurt from obviously being stuffed together with spines poking each other. However, the spines were removed for shipping but I guess that was after the fact. Luckily they recovered fine from their injuries and now have some root growth.

So... I am a Bridgesii n00b and not entirely sure what to look for. Is it real?

 

[wearepeople]

So... I am a Bridgesii n00b and not entirely sure what to look for. Is it real?

Tough to say, You'll know for sure when the full-grown spines start popping out. I'd say bridgesii or peruvianas of some sort, definitely not PC pachanoi.

I doubt the vendor was trying to scam you, bridgesii spines can be extremely long and difficult to package. Trimming them off is fairly common for shipping purposes.

also, They're right at the point where I'd start introducing em to more and more light.

 

[Nathaniel]

Thank you! Yea I don't think they were trying to scam anyone, it's just that I ordered these from an odd place and was kind of bummed when they arrived with pokey sores. I haven't put them in direct light because they had very small roots when I checked last. I could see about giving them some sunlight if it would ever peek through the clouds here!

 

[Wolfnippletip]

This is only specimen I have which I don't know about. The seller called it a Scopulicola, but it doesn't look like a Scopulicola to me. It's cucumber green with 9 ribs. Anyone venture a guess? In the background is a Bridgesii Seedling and a Terscheckii.

 

[Sasquach2112]

I got these from a friend. They look like san pedro/peruvian torch. The san pedro was bought at a big.box home improvement store. And the torch was order from a web site thats no longer in business.

 

[TotalTotalness]

Pretty sure its some kind of a trych, but which type exactly? Any help?

 

[Grey Fox]

Looks like a Peruvianus to me. Very nice looking specimen!

 

[downwardsfromzero]

This is only specimen I have which I don't know about. The seller called it a Scopulicola, but it doesn't look like a Scopulicola to me. It's cucumber green with 9 ribs. Anyone venture a guess? In the background is a Bridgesii Seedling and a Terscheckii.

So you posted this 4 years ago, but it gets me wondering - how many other members of the terscheckii owners' club are there out there?

 

[Wolfnippletip]

4 years later, that same specimen grew up and flowers (and pups) like crazy. It was my first cactus to flower. Still don't know what it is. It fits the general description of "PC Pach", but it doesn't look like the other PC I've seen.

 

[Grey Fox]

I have one with a similar look, but it hasnt flowered yet. I'll try to post a photo later today. The vendor swore it was a pachanoi, but I have a strong suspicion that it is Pachanoi x Grandiflorus, probably PC x Grandiflorus. Your plant may be a similar cross.

 

[Wolfnippletip]

Wow Grey Fox they sure do look alike. Thanks for the clue as to what it might be. Mine grew fast and flowered for the first time when it was about 2.5 feet (3/4 meter) tall. The first year it flowered it put out about 5 or 6 rounds of 4 or 5 flowers each, over the course of the season. This year it went bonkers and put out 19 flowers at once, as soon as it came out of dormancy but didn't flower again the rest of the Season.

And downwardsfromzero I have 3 Terscheckii and 2 Scopulicola x Terscheckii which are grafted onto Pereskiopsis. I brewed up some Terscheckii Tea once. Not sure what else it had besides mescaline but it was extremely stimmy. It had me pacing the floor and peering out windows like a tweaker.

 

[Grey Fox]

Yeah I would suspect that your plant has some Grandiflorus DNA. PC flowers are white. The fact that it has pink flowers, it flowered at a young age, it flowers profusely... all these factors point to there being some Grandiflorus genetics mixed in.

 

[Wolfnippletip]

Can someone definitely identify these cacti for me?

These were sold as Bridgesii and got good reviews, whatever that's worth. They arrived quite hurt from obviously being stuffed together with spines poking each other. However, the spines were removed for shipping but I guess that was after the fact. Luckily they recovered fine from their injuries and now have some root growth.

So... I am a Bridgesii n00b and not entirely sure what to look for. Is it real?

Nathaniel I just noticed your pics. Did you get yours from "Desertview Cactus" on the Bay? It looks like it. Real stout, about 3 inches diameter with the spines cut for shipping. If it is their bridge it is totally legit. It just looks like PC Pach once the spines are clipped. The 1 foot cuts I got ranged from 600grs - almost 1100(!)grs. I cut off a 400 gr piece of it fresh, did a quick brew of the dark green flesh and got more than I bargained for. I extracted 7 kilos of it and got about .8 grs full spectrum mescaline acetate per kilo. The alk mix is really good too, one of my favorites so far.