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Tried and true Aya recipe?

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Have access to:

Caapi
Chacruna
Chaliponga
Mimosa
Acacia
Syrian rue

But don't know how to prepare or what ratios are needed... Can anyone share a recipe that's a sure shot?
 
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Blend 3.5 grams of Syrian rue, dump into a pot of 2 cups of water. Bring it up to a simmer (pot lid on) and then allow to cool down (I add a spoonful of honey to aid with the rough taste). Drink all of the Syrian rue tea and wait 45 minutes. Eat 5 - 8 grams of acacia acuminata or mimosa (it's hard to eat raw but I find it to be ok by chewing and swallowing with water). Go and find somewhere comfortable and let the magic happen.
 
I want a STRONG experience as ive yet to breakthrough on deemz. Anyone tell me if effects from mimosa vs acacia are any differnt?
 
I see a few things needing comment here.

Every batch you make will be different, even same batch hits differently on different occasions but is more consistent if drinking the same batch. All your plants will have fluctuating quantities. I'm always inclined to brew maoi and dmt plants separately and then combine the resulting teas after I've found a ratio that works well. Different folks prefer different ratios of dmt to harmala. I myself like harmala heavy brews but wouldn't recommend that to everyone.

For Rue 3-4g per serving is usually the range where people are happy with rue, though your individual makeup may be sensitive to harmala in different ways to usual. Same for acacia, chacruna, chali, aya etc..

Chacruna potency can vary drastically. 30-50g of one batch is a dose vs 10g being very strong. I wouldn't want to drink 50g of a 10g heavy dose chacruna, even if I wanted a strong experience.

You haven't mentioned which acacia you have which would change things because each acacia has a different average potency. If confusa then go with 10g-15g to start.

I've never used mimosa or chali so won't comment about them.

Basically you want to cook up enough for maybe 5 doses assuming average dosages and then you can always tweak the ratio to get where you want to be. You can always drink more.

Another thing is that true breakthroughs are harder to achieve with brews than smoking. Only one time could I say I came close to breakthrough with oral and it came about very unexpectedly.
 
Animistic said:
Another thing is that true breakthroughs are harder to achieve with brews than smoking. Only one time could I say I came close to breakthrough with oral and it came about very unexpectedly.
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What constitutes a "true breakthrough?"

SWIM has experienced fully immersive extended multidimensional living intelligent and communicative fractal geometric "spaces" with traditional oral brews of such intensity that SWIM felt close to losing conscious awareness, such that it's hard to imagine much beyond that in terms of intensity...

But SWIM is all ears if they are missing out on something :)
 
taita said:
What constitutes a "true breakthrough?"

SWIM has experienced fully immersive extended multidimensional living intelligent and communicative fractal geometric "spaces" with traditional oral brews of such intensity that SWIM felt close to losing conscious awareness, such that it's hard to imagine much beyond that in terms of intensity...

But SWIM is all ears if they are missing out on something :)
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Thats actually a great point. Breakthrough is a vaguely defined term and often not super useful.

Yes that sounds in the same vein as what mean. My point is that OP said they haven't been able to breakthrough with smoking and I am saying that oral isn't, strictly in my own experience, usually as intense as smoking in the sense of being fully blasted into another dimension as readily. Though I have lost contact with my body with an oral brew, I'm usually more embodied in brews vs smoking. Coming back into my body and realising, "oh yeah, right..this body thing".
 
Totally fair and valid point :)
Brews have taken SWIM farther than anything, but SWIM 's experience w vaping & smoalking is fairly limited.

I'd imagine it's analogous to cannabis. Longer experiences with slower onset (and potentially deeper experiences because of the extended state) with the oral route, compared to faster and more fireworks inhaled

@JungleGhost afaik a traditional recipe is twice as much pounded caapi as chacruna by volume, cooked in water for 1-3 days, strained and cooked down to a viscous liquid, being careful not to burn it. Prayer songs, good intentions, and mapacho smoke blowed on to the brew during the cooking as well 🙏🌱
 
Yes, exactly! I am a bigger fan of oral brews myself than smoking. It has a different type of intensity because of its embodied, deeper feeling. I also find the oral route a deeper/fuller experience. Vaped with maois is a close second though.

I've known some people to go abit off cannabis after a heavy edible experience because the stoney feeling is deeper and more embodied vs smoking. Same kinda intensity with brews imo.
 
the pen is blue said:
Blend 3.5 grams of Syrian rue, dump into a pot of 2 cups of water. Bring it up to a simmer (pot lid on) and then allow to cool down (I add a spoonful of honey to aid with the rough taste). Drink all of the Syrian rue tea and wait 45 minutes. Eat 5 - 8 grams of acacia acuminata or mimosa (it's hard to eat raw but I find it to be ok by chewing and swallowing with water). Go and find somewhere comfortable and let the magic happen.
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Is there a difference between acacia acuminata and acacia confusa? I've only had Hawaiian confusa

I also see above that 10-15g is recommended for a strong confusa experience, but with my confusa 3g is near guaranteed ego death. I've read Hawaiian is stronger but that seems like a major difference.
 
I would not go above 5g with barks, and even that could be too much. Just follow @Jamie01's advice and find your perfect dose slowly.
There are a few fine threads about oral brews already:
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Thread 'First attempt at low-dose Mimosahuasca, what went wrong?'

I have no previous experience with DMT or Ayahuasca, so I'm treading lightly by starting first with low doses. I'm trying it with my girlfriend, who also has no DMT experience whatsoever. For our first experience, we aimed at a low Mimosahuasca dose with 100mg harmala HCl (obtained as an extract already) and 1.5g MHRB. These doses are per person, so the total amount of MHRB brewed was 3g.

The MHRB was not powdered but very finely shredded. I brewed it in 1L tap water with a teaspoon vinegar. As the water reduced in volume, I added an additional 0.5L with half a teaspoon vinegar. I did...
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Thread 'blig-blug's Ayahuasca experience log'

This is a continuation of the thread First attempt at low-dose Mimosahuasca, what went wrong? under a more fitting name to avoid confusion.

Four days ago, I again took Ayahuasca. This time, I have taken some days before even attempting to write about the experience, as it was quite intense and confusing. I'm still not sure I can say much about it in detail.

This time, I had 225mg harmala HCl and a brew with the equivalent to 2.5g Mimosa hostilis. My girlfriend also partook in it, having 200mg harmala HCl and 1.75g Mimosa hostilis (she seems to be very sensitive to it). We...
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frequencyelevation said:
Is there a difference between acacia acuminata and acacia confusa? I've only had Hawaiian confusa

I also see above that 10-15g is recommended for a strong confusa experience, but with my confusa 3g is near guaranteed ego death. I've read Hawaiian is stronger but that seems like a major difference.
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Acacia acuminata is a west Australian species containing about 2% dmt (conservative maximum). Its bark has a low lipid profile which is good for clean extractions (phyllodes are really fatty).
 

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