Tripping alone

[VoidTraveler]

I've done shrooms several times in the past, but always with other people. The trips were fun and at some point even forced me to solve a psychedelic crisis with a friend who went bad. I've consumed 10 and 15 gram dosages of truffles.

Now that I've tripped with others, I'm curious to what happens if I consume 5 grams of dried shrooms alone. My planned form of consumption is to make a smoothie with various fruits, including some citrus fruits for the MAOIs in them. I'll fast 5 to 6 hours before tripping and for during the comedown I have a wide variety of ice creams, fruits(some slightly frozen. Semi-frozen raspberries while tripping is great. I can feel the cold crawl up my hands and arms) and other tasty light snacks. Nothing too heavy and nothing in too large quantities. For music selection I have some Sphongle, various psybient music and techno.

Are there any things I need to pay special attention to? Do sole trippers have any tips for me?

 

[universecannon]

What you get out of it is reflected by what you put into it

set(the state/contents of your mind) and setting(your environment) as you probably already know, are essential things to consider. i prefer silent darkness for high doses of mushrooms, but occasionally its nice to listen to music.. if i do i save that for the comedown on those big doses though. I usually meditate as much as i can about the upcoming experience in the time prior to it, but don't cling to any expectations or concepts since they will be obliterated anyway..just ponder intentions, fill your heart with love and good vibes. Optimism ftw. IMO, Yoga/meditation beforehand (and meditation during-sometimes yoga to) is a beautiful and very useful way to gently guide the trip into a more positive experience

If it starts going south, it may be that you just need to deal with the information that it is bringing to the surface of your awareness so to learn from it and grow. Often its info we put in the back of our minds, and we can even subconsciously do this so we don't have to deal with the bigger picture of ourselves/the world.

Sometimes though you can get into a negative rut, and focusing on breathing slow and deep breathes helps here..changing what room your lying in, if possible, also helps me..as does smiling, laughing and NOT taking to toooo seriously. mushrooms naturally have a very silly and freaky sense of humor anyway :d The times i've seen people, including myself, get into trouble is when they blow aspects of the experience/thoughts wayyy out of proportion

I like the idea of just laying down in silent darkness with a sort of empty slate as to what to expect for the first time..but im a chicken shit and scoured hundreds of individual reports of people doing this :lol: ..so reading up more can give you some ideas on how you might want to approach "it". but honestly, experience is the best teacher

 

[thepureskunk]

Hey,

I nearly always trip alone and IMO I find it a lot more constructive and beneficial. The main reason for my thinking is the lack of distractions and the ability of being in charge of your own trip. You can also 'let go' far more easily.

70-80% of the time i would trip at night, in bed or somewhere comfortable with music, candles and very little else. I have recently been listening to a lot of Terence Mckenna and he (and i would listen to what the great man say's) recommends that you should take a strong dose, on a empty stomach and in total darkness laying down....

I've yet to try it but will be in the next couple of weeks.

Happy journeys

 

[Tek]

Most of my mushroom sessions have been alone and the times I have tripped with someone it's always been my girlfriend whom I'm 100% comfortable around.

To add to what pureskunk already said about Terence, I find his recommendation for taking psychedelics to be spot on, especially the part about warning against taking too little of a substance. At first, this seems to be a terrible piece of advice but having done it both ways I definately agree that more is better than too little.

What I've found is if you take too few shrooms the experience can become quite freaky. Your ego doesn't like to let you go, I think it's constructed to keep you attached to your physical life, which is what your trying to get away from (if your goal is to have a transcendental experience). When you take a lower dose of mushrooms, it becomes very easy to get stuck in an in-between state where things are clearly fucked up but you have a hard time letting go. My worst trips always come from taking too few shrooms instead of too many.

 

[universecannon]

For the most part i agree with the infamous quote "if your not afraid you took to much, you didn't take enough".. But that said i absolutely love low/medium doses of mushrooms as well

 

[Doodazzle]

The OP, VoidTraveler, is talking about 5 grams being their lower dose. Often I see party users going much lower than this. From my personal experience I'd say an 8th or more and your plenty safe from getting caught in the in-between zone. An 8th is 3.5 grams remember. I've only been stuck in the in between state on those occassions when I tried to eat less than half an 8th. Even then I've enjoyed low doses on occassion.


Furthermore, I'd say that I have a party dose. This dose is zero. Once apon a time that dose was low, rather than zero....but I've lived and I've seen. Mushrooms+crowds=problems, in ways that acid and crowds will not, and with greater frequency.

Then I have a small group of friends dose, half an 8th to up to a quarter ounce.

If I'm alone or it's just me and my girl I can eat a half ounce or more. Or less mushroom +syrian rue, a combo which always leads to entity contact and can be quite powerful.



For a higher dose, or a dopse involving any type of MAOI, I'd leave out the music. The mushrooms themselves make fine music.

 

[Sky Motion]

I've tripped with friends mostly but I decided to do mushrooms once alone. It was very enjoyable, I know we preach preach preach it, but set and setting are absolutely essential when tripping alone. Especially on a high dose. Make sure everything is perfect, with NO ROOM FOR WORRIES. Also, as always, succumb to the experience.

Safe travels

 

[PrimateSphinx]

Honestly I prefer to trip mushrooms alone. Take Terence's advice: alone, in nature, and you already have the high dose part down . For me I always learn a lot more about myself and the mushroom experience rather than having to worry about being trying to communicate on high doses of hallucinogens. I do like taking smaller doses with a few friends but i couldn't handle high doses. but that's me

 

[VoidTraveler]

Honestly I prefer to trip mushrooms alone. Take Terence's advice: alone, in nature, and you already have the high dose part down . For me I always learn a lot more about myself and the mushroom experience rather than having to worry about being trying to communicate on high doses of hallucinogens. I do like taking smaller doses with a few friends but i couldn't handle high doses. but that's me

Nature isn't an option this time a year. Winter is approaching and I rather not be outside high on shrooms. But when summer will come around that is one of the things that is on the list.

Plans have changed a bit. I'm going to drop acid tomorrow(first time) and in 2 or 3 weeks I'll have my solo mushroom trip.

 

[PrimateSphinx]

Nature isn't an option this time a year. Winter is approaching and I rather not be outside high on shrooms.

meh, I likes the cold but i have to or else I'd go insane in the winter. Fortunately for me the Norwegians invented skiing good luck with your first time on Lysergic acic diethylamide, its a hell of a substance

 

[VoidTraveler]

I'll be bumping this for several reasons:

First: I've only done truffles in the past. WET truffles to be exact, so taking 5 grams of dried is my highest dose up so far. However, on LSD I've experienced some seriously intense ego death so I'm quite confident I'll be able to handle the mushrooms.

Does anyone know how big the difference in strength is between truffles and mushrooms?

What do fellow solo trippers do during their trip?

 

[Doodazzle]

Does anyone know how big the difference in strength is between truffles and mushrooms?

Is the question here "gourmet mushrooms v's entheogenic mushrooms"?

Or is there some new slang, and I just aint hip?

 

[Mindlusion]

Does anyone know how big the difference in strength is between truffles and mushrooms?

Is the question here "gourmet mushrooms v's entheogenic mushrooms"?

Or is there some new slang, and I just aint hip?

Truffles ( Sclerotia tampanensis) are a type of psilocybin containing mushroom in the UK, fairly easy to obtain. They are much weaker then traditional psilocybes (cubensis, semilanceata, cyanescens) and extremely large amounts must be eaten to recieve visonary effects like from large doses of mushrooms, they commonly eaten for a low dose experience.

about the thread, usually when I take a hallucinogenic substance in a high dosage I trip alone, Usually without even leaving a room.

 

[Dr Psychonaut]

I've found this thread very useful as I've been considering my first solo shroom trip soon too. I've done shrooms many times at low/medium doses always with friends which is always a lot of fun but there's always that part of me that wants to disconnect from the external world and explore the inner realms that psilocybin can provide access to. I'm particularly drawn to the aesthetic closed eye visuals which I haven't yet been able to fully appreciate but its like I know there's something wonderful behind there... How would one describe the character of high dose psilocybin visuals compared to say DMT?

 

[Doodazzle]

I'm days late, but still--thank you Mindlusion.

 

[Shadowman-x]

Dr. psychonaught, many people I know say high dose psilocybin/psilocin visuals are comparable entirely to DMT trips. I would ask jamie about his experiences with solo high dose mushroom trips and he should be able to paint an accurate picture.

 

[jamie]

high dose mushrooms are very close to DMT..nearly identical but there is some differences. DMT is a bit more sharp, crisp maybe..DMT is the clearest there is I find. Now, I am talking mushrooms and NOT pure psilocin/psilocybin..pure psilocin I am sure would be even closer if not exactly like DMT..the baeocystin in mushrooms and other alks most likely color the experience a bit and change it.

The biggest difference I find between DMT/ayahuasca and mushrooms is that DMT and ayahuasca just feel more natural for the body. Mushrooms feel natural enough already but there is something about ayahuasca that feels right..and I feel really great after..where with mushrooms I have an afterglow and feel good mentally..but physically I feel tired and a bit run down after mushrooms as compared to ayahuasca and other DMT/harmala mixes..

Also ayahuasca and other mixes of oral harmala and DMT differ more from psilocin because the harmalas add alot to the experience. In general though DMT and psilocin are like twins almost and you wont get any closer to DMT than psilocin.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I often prefer alone as well. I do have a couple people who can handle anything an experience throws at them, so if I do go in a group its with them.

The thing I've learned, is the energy of others amplifies the experience, without a doubt, any dose feels stronger around others who are involved.

To me the experience is very personal and needs to be free from distraction if you are seeking insight.

So its really give and take between the two options. With my select friends, things aren't neccesarily more introspective, yet we share the experience, the visuals, and the wow factor of life and creation. One of My last shared experience was Syrian, freebase d, and shroom tea watching planet earth HD with coil 'time machine', which was :shock:

One thing I've learned, which reinstates what has been said before here, is take plenty! Do not dose short by any means. Eat moar!

 

[staresatwalls]

pardon how scatter brained this post is. i prefer to trip alone and take really big doses. tripping w/ friends is cool but even when i do that i'll find an empty room if possible for when i'm peaking.

Make sure everything is perfect, with NO ROOM FOR WORRIES. Also, as always, succumb to the experience.

Safe travels

i largely agree with skymotion here but i would have to put it as just surround yourself with what you like; like tons of weed (pre ground w/ a bowl or pre rolled j's), harmala infused herbs (i'd also recommend a full maoi inhibition beforehand too :thumb_up: )changa, and perhaps a glass of water or oj. i like to come up doing things i enjoy and then when i really start tripping i'll lay down in a dark room and veg out. and as i'm sure you know take care of all your shit that could cloud your mind beforehand.

In general though DMT and psilocin are like twins almost

one atom difference

 

[corpus callosum]

Tripping alone is, IME, rewarding in a way that isnt achieved when others are present and I firmly believe it shouldnt be attempted by those who have never had a bad trip previously.

A good compromise (and this can also apply to the experienced solo-venturer) if feasible, is to let a trusted and experienced friend know of ones plan to have a solo session and have their blessing to ring them if things get a little hairy. The knowledge that theres someone on the other end of the phone if required can provide some useful succour and to some degree dispels the feeling of being totally 'alone' whilst still giving access to the real benefits of a trip devoid of input from other persons.